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ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Brighton, MA
reply to antdude

Re: Getting 305/65

It's a matter of perspective. 10 years ago nobody needed more than 1.5mbps.

People don't need about 80% of the stuff they have.



antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by ArrayList:

It's a matter of perspective. 10 years ago nobody needed more than 1.5mbps.

People don't need about 80% of the stuff they have.

But they can get more later on like in a decade. :P


SHoTTa35

@optonline.net
reply to ArrayList

said by ArrayList:

It's a matter of perspective. 10 years ago nobody needed more than 1.5mbps.

People don't need about 80% of the stuff they have.

Hehe funny you should say that because 14yrs ago I had 8Mbps Cable .... yeah didn't need it but my friends were sure happy that I had it though! This was in the AOL 56K and DSL 768K "super fast" days.


ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Brighton, MA

I lived in rural america and was lucky to get 28.8kbps on a dialup connection.



NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
reply to SHoTTa35

said by SHoTTa35 :

Hehe funny you should say that because 14yrs ago I had 8Mbps Cable .... yeah didn't need it but my friends were sure happy that I had it though! This was in the AOL 56K and DSL 768K "super fast" days.

14 years ago, HSI was not available in my neighborhood in the heart of Silicon.

DSL arrived first, and I could choose between 768k and 1.5M. Cable arrived three years later.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to espaeth

I was referring to modern times. Such as when Verizon started with their 300Mbps speed tiers and Comcast reacted with their own speed bumps. Or when most if not all other cable and FiOS and satellite providers started allowing customers to stream live television and recorded shows from the DVR's to their smartphones and tablets and laptops over the internet and Comcast has yet to nationwide.


nysports4evr
Premium
join:2010-01-23
kudos:1
reply to Darknessfall

Wow, I'm jealous. Will be interesting to see if it stays symmetrical.


Telco

join:2008-12-19
Reviews:
·Callcentric
reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

14 years ago, HSI was not available in my neighborhood in the heart of Silicon.

DSL arrived first, and I could choose between 768k and 1.5M. Cable arrived three years later.

It's a disgrace that there isn't any FiOS out there of all places and you guys are forced to endure comcast or u-verse.


NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
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join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC

said by Telco:

It's a disgrace that there isn't any FiOS out there of all places and you guys are forced to endure comcast or u-verse.

The only South S.F. Bay Area communities which possibly could get FiOS are Monte Sereno and Los Gatos; where Verizon is the ILEC.

However, AT&T has deployed U-verse FTTH in some of the new condos built near Fruitvale and Meridian in San Jose in the last three years, or so (but they don't offer the full potential of the fiber).

Also a couple of CLEC services offer FTTH: Paxio in the City of Santa Clara, and Sonic.net, LLC in the North S.F. Bay Area. Long term, Sonic.net seems determined to offer FTTH in all communities where they currently offer their "Fusion" service.

In the Sacramento area, Roseville Telephone Company (now called, "Surewest") has had fiber deployed in some parts of their footprint since 1996, or so.

Nothing as widespread as Verizon's FiOS; but it is available in some California communities.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to whfsdude

Click for full size
Figured it was time for another update. Connection is really solid (as it should be).

Haven't had a chance to play with it too much as I've been away on a business trip to a branch office for the whole week. Spent about 30 hours with it before I had to catch a flight.

The graphs aren't that exciting as this is a 1 hour avg so it doesn't accurately capture the big peaks.

When I was at the data center friday night, remote desktop was pretty awesome at ~2 ms.

One final note is the 95/5 calculation on the RRD only takes into account v4 traffic.

buckweet1980

join:2011-12-31
Allen, TX

I don't believe you mentioned, but are you using the comcast provided router or a different enterprise class device?



depster

join:2001-06-07
united state

1 recommendation

Was mentioned earier. PFSense.



whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to buckweet1980

pfsense box. I put the Comcast provided 802.11ac router into bridge mode and have it configured as an AP in my network.

The Comcast provided router was fine, just a little limiting if you're a power user. As an AP, I am able to get 300+mbits over it.



NetDog
Premium,VIP
join:2002-03-04
Parker, CO
kudos:79

1 recommendation

reply to whfsdude

I want to see some major v6 traffic on this bad boy



whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by NetDog:

I want to see some major v6 traffic on this bad boy

Don't you worry. I'll make that happen.

WB3FFV

join:2001-12-11
Abingdon, MD
reply to whfsdude

I would love to run some major IPv6 traffic over my connection, hopefully someday I can get dual stack on my business class connection.

That said, on the 305/65 service offering, is it only dynamic IP's, or can you get a small block of static's on it? I know better than to think BGP, but one can dream..



whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by WB3FFV:

That said, on the 305/65 service offering, is it only dynamic IP's, or can you get a small block of static's on it? I know better than to think BGP, but one can dream..

Everything is static.

/64 (soon to be /56, NetDog - more VLANs equals more traffic )

Not sure about v4, everything is on-net (routed to vlan). I've been given a paper w/ just one address. It's inside a /29 so in theory I could arp the other 5. Looking at the traffic on the wan int, I'm the only customer on that VLAN so who knows.

Maybe it's a dedicated VLAN to just me and I can use the entire /29 but doubtful.

Then again, who cares about v4. :P


whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to WB3FFV

said by WB3FFV:

I know better than to think BGP, but one can dream..

You could always pull an Owen DeLong (GRE tunnel your business cable connection to a data center, run BGP from there).

WB3FFV

join:2001-12-11
Abingdon, MD

1 recommendation

Well don't need BGP here at my place, but I have a GIF tunnel running from my home to the datacenter. At the DC I am all dual-stack and BGP for both v4 and v6, so that takes care of that. I just hate to have to reflect into the DC to get my connectivity and back out, native access is preferred, plus then I can use the ASA far better..

Nice on the connectivity whfs, I use a lot of Comcast's MetroE services, in fact they were pulling more fiber for me today, so know that fiber and Ciena switches work very well..



whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to whfsdude

Just another random speedtest. They've adjusted since QoS settings since last Friday which seem fine. I'm getting 70-100 upload, about 300mbit down.



^ test was really done over v6



Oregonian
Premium
join:2000-12-21
West Linn, OR
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 recommendation

said by whfsdude:

Just another random speedtest. They've adjusted since QoS settings since last Friday which seem fine. I'm getting 70-100 upload, about 300mbit down.




^ test was really done over v6

Now you're just rubbing it in.


whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast
reply to whfsdude

Got my routed /56 allocation. Route won't get added until Monday but I've set up a VLAN on it right now so I can see when it goes live.

That will pretty much complete the setup.

And just another week's worth of traffic (with more v6):


Last 8 hours:



whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
reply to whfsdude

All migrated to my routed /56.


AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

1 recommendation

said by whfsdude:

All migrated to my routed /56.

Now you're just bragging...


Active Opto

@lstn.net
reply to whfsdude

Whfsdude, did they gave you 2 strands of 1G fiber for your 3931 service switch or just one?

That's plenty to play with even with symmetrical speeds and they might even switch you to 10G in many years to come.
(Quoting from the Ciena 3931 data sheet).

I wonder what's with the 65mbps upload limitation since they are giving you a dedicated P2P FTTP connection.



whfsdude
Premium
join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 edit

said by Active Opto :

Whfsdude, did they gave you 2 strands of 1G fiber for your 3931 service switch or just one?

Yes. I've got a pair from the pole (RX, TX). Terminated via pig tales w/ LC connectors.

That's plenty to play with even with symmetrical speeds and they might even switch you to 10G in many years to come.
(Quoting from the Ciena 3931 data sheet).

Yup. They'd have to swap out the optics and give me a SFP+ handoff. I think I'll be running at a 1G in a year or two (no idea about 10G). It doesn't make much sense to jump to anything else whenever there are upgrades. Might as well get the press out of offering 1G service.

I'm sure if it was 1G Comcast would have more signups.

I wonder what's with the 65mbps upload limitation since they are giving you a dedicated P2P FTTP connection.

My understanding this is a competing product with Verizon's premium FiOS tier (300/65). Comcast was looking to match that.

Edit:
Just wanted to add that on Comcast's end sits a Juniper router. Not sure about any L1/L2 optics gear in-between. Other than nothing powered between here and their head-end (900 Michigan Ave NE)

AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

It is a shame Comcast has not taken, at least outwardly, more interest in deploying fiber to small business / residential subscribers. DOCSIS has proven to be a lot more effective than I would have guessed back in 1999, but it does seem direct fiber provides more possibilities and probably less overhead in the long run.


BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

It's expensive, and with D3, they can keep cranking the speeds without FTTH. What makes me more mad is that they continue to re-compress the HD channels, and on the larger, newer TVs, they look like absolute shit.


AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

It's expensive if you try to only do a few, or rush and try to do many at once, but I'd imagine there's a sustainable middle ground. AFAIK, they are not even doing fiber to greenfield construction ares yet.


BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

It's a really hard business case to sell when HFC can do so much, and fiber can't do a whole lot more. AT&T, however, has to do fiber, even though they don't, as they don't have any bandwidth left. They have terrible picture quality and half the bandwidth of Comcast, and Comcast isn't close to maxed out, but AT&T is completely maxed out on their copper with U-Verse.