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whfsdude
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join:2003-04-05
Washington, DC

reply to whfsdude

Re: Getting 305/65

Update 4: Comcast called - Could be up to five to ten business days for the inspection and engineering to be completed with the local municipalities.

cooldude9919

join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
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said by whfsdude:

Update 4: Comcast called - Could be up to five to ten business days for the inspection and engineering to be completed with the local municipalities.

Normal bussiness fiber build out can take 60-90 days, so you seem to be moving along much faster than that.


whfsdude
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said by cooldude9919:

Normal bussiness fiber build out can take 60-90 days, so you seem to be moving along much faster than that.

Only about 1000 ft, infrastructure already in place, and lots of space in the manholes.

Apparently I'm also the first 305 customer. I'm betting they want to get one up and running pretty quickly.


Chris 313
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said by whfsdude:

said by cooldude9919:

Normal bussiness fiber build out can take 60-90 days, so you seem to be moving along much faster than that.

Only about 1000 ft, infrastructure already in place, and lots of space in the manholes.

Apparently I'm also the first 305 customer. I'm betting they want to get one up and running pretty quickly.

Of course they do! They want all that money you're gonna generate for them over your 3 year contract. For all you pay, I hope you get every ounce of speed you're paying for.

Please keep posting updates and lots of pictures once everything gets started. I wanna drool enviously. 320 a month plus the install and contract/ETF fees just for net is too rich for my blood. 100 would be the Absolute limit for me, if that.

neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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reply to whfsdude
man holes? are you getting this as a underground install?

One of the reasons I didn't even contact comcast was because they wern't going to run anything underground I thought we were told... we have conduit in our are, just no arial until you are 1000 ft from my house



whfsdude
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said by neufuse See Profile
One of the reasons I didn't even contact comcast was because they wern't going to run anything underground I thought we were told... we have conduit in our are, just no arial until you are 1000 ft from my house

Most of DC is underground from the node to the alley.

Green box is my node. I've heard the fiber will come from here.



Would run ~2 blocks to my pole.



I happen to be on the first pole in the alley. The orange conduit is actually for FiOS construction. Both telco and Comcast trunks go up via that pole from the manhole network.

neufuse

join:2006-12-06
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huh... that seems to kinda contradict what we thoguht was the install requirements.. wonder if they would be willing to run the fiber down the orange conduit to my house from the node that is about 1000' from me direct line of sight to it... only problem is our whole area is UG, the node is even a UG connected node that is in a box by the road


cooldude9919

join:2000-05-29
Cape Girardeau, MO
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said by neufuse:

huh... that seems to kinda contradict what we thoguht was the install requirements.. wonder if they would be willing to run the fiber down the orange conduit to my house from the node that is about 1000' from me direct line of sight to it... only problem is our whole area is UG, the node is even a UG connected node that is in a box by the road

It may be on a case by case basis sometimes. And no UG can be a bit broad. If they already have UG conduit or duct in place with room, then may go ahead and run it. If they dont and their current stuff was previously direct buried with no conduit, and they would have to bore/trench in the fiber a long distance to reach you, then obviously that may not be economically feasible.


ActiveOpto

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said by whfsdude:

They are. Nearest fiber is located at the node. So they'll run fiber to my house and I'll get an ethernet handoff from the 3931.

I believe the fiber connection that serves the Ciena 3931 Carrier Ethernet switch is actually a P2P active ethernet line that basically extends the metro ethernet ports at the Comcast office right till the door of your home.

From the datasheet provided by Ciena, the 3931 has 4XGE RJ45 ports. 1 is being used to service your CPE.

Considering if your neighbors would order another 305 package, will Comcast use the other remaining ports in the same 3931 on your door?


whfsdude
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said by ActiveOpto :

Considering if your neighbors would order another 305 package, will Comcast use the other remaining ports in the same 3931 on your door?

Also has 4 sfp ports. I will be providing power for the unit though so I don't think that would be a good idea.

However, I bet they put up a splice box on my pole as to extend fiber deeper into their network. Although I'm close enough to the node they might not.

neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
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reply to ActiveOpto
municipalities will not allow Comcast to run Ethernet from another house into his house to plug into his Ciena ports even if there are 2 extra open ones... it's just now allowed they can only go from utility to CPE not from CPE to CPE plus that would mean he could take down the neighbors connection on demand... another no no



ActiveOpto

@lstn.net

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I somewhat had the idea that Comcast was actually supplying the power for the switch just like the idea of the MDU located under the basement of an apartment.

The Ciena carrier ethernet service switches can actually be upgraded to support 10GE for future needs. For a small apartment buildings with less than 8 tenants, it's cost effective to place a multi family switch and pull ethernet cables to each unit if needed.



ActiveOpto

@lstn.net

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said by whfsdude:

However, I bet they put up a splice box on my pole as to extend fiber deeper into their network. Although I'm close enough to the node they might not.

Yes, that will make it convenient for the drops and further troubleshooting.They'll probably splice a pigtail the pull a drop down to your 3931 switch.

It's going to be a P2P connection from a nearby Comcast office that houses the Metro Ethernet switches.

However I don't understand why would Comcast would not just do GEPON with very low splits to maintain good QoS. It's still cheaper to put a small OLT at the headend, feed it with 10GE and give every subscriber a good indoor ONT. It can also handle RF if needed.

Thanks for the clarification.

BiggA

join:2005-11-23
EARTH

Why bother when they already have Metro-E and HFC infrastructure. No need to re-invent the wheel here.



scooby
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join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
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Joining this really late but what is the expected cap going to be on 305/65? I'm curious if the OP has something in writing that Comcast won't put the cap back to 300GB?



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
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The 305/65 tier has no data allowance/cap:
»Comcast's 305 Mbps Tier Has No Cap -- For Now

See this thread for more details on this tier: »Extreme 305



Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
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reply to jarablue

said by jarablue:

I have FIOS. My tier is 150/65. I also have every channel and digital voice. I pay 179.99 a month. When I upgraded to 150/65 there was no cost to me at all.

Do whatever makes you happy.

Except you weren't able to use your own router I assume?


Mike Wolf

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reply to whfsdude
What router are you going to be using with your new connection since I don't know if your current one pictured will be able to handle those speeds. It's going to need at least a gigabit WAN (internet) port and if you want wireless and have any switches that's gonna be a different ballgame since you'll need up to upgrade those things to since I'm sure a 10/100 switch (and 10/100 router) won't pass the 305Mbps, then you'll need to look into your networking devices themselves like computers and printers and the like.
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whfsdude
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said by Mike Wolf:

What router are you going to be using with your new connection since I don't know if your current one pictured will be able to handle those speeds. It's going to need at least a gigabit WAN (internet)

What you see in the picture is a gigabit switch. Have the port tagging on the CMs port.

My router is a pfsense box. Thinking about upgrading (downgrading specs) to an atom as it'll last longer on the UPS. Worried about firewall throughput as I approach a gig though. :-/

Upstairs I've got a 2 x 1-ge port trunk (LACP) from my core switch to a Clearwire modem (backup), and three APs.



WAN == Comcast

You'll also note that there is a second v6 gateway. That's my tunnel for Clearwire as they don't have native yet.

Not running NPT, just have a policy route for the Clearwire v6 tunnel and have it running on a few of my VLANs (eg. Lab, guest wireless).


JigglyWiggly

join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

Well my pfsense box has more modems...
no wireless backup though.

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