Topic 'Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and...' in forum 'HughesNet Satellite' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27683048 en Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:00:23 EDT Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:00:23 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27756513 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27756513 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:08:01 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27756139 quote:
the HT1000 apparently only has about 24MB of space. I wonder if they have another terminal planned like Exede with the SurfBeam Pro 2 with more memory, which you can find videos on on YouTube. From what I was watching it was pulling down at 40Mbps.

When I had Exede12, I was able to Bit Torrent large ISOs at about 2.4MB/sec. That's MegaBytes!!!

With HNG4, the most I've seen is 1.5MB/sec. Which still isn't the 15Mbps. It's more like 13Mbps. Getting 15Mbps is 1.875MB/sec.

I sure hope a software upgrade fixes this fairly soon.


That 24MB is system memory, it's used for everything, it's not a local storage area for data, as it's done on the fly when decompressing.

Also, it depends upon what unit a company uses for speed measurements, some use 1024 for 1MB, some go on 1000 for 1MB
1.5MB/sec sounds just about right with Hughesnet for some reason on the 15Mbps package, don't ask why... Just does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27756139 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:42:10 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27755761 said by diablo1892:

said by MeAgain4 :

said by monicakm:

I'm still at 9999 MB remaining LOL

This is the ONLY reason users are currently happy, and the massive influx of complaints has not started yet!

You think this is the only thing that's keeping us as HN customers?? No your wrong, some of us only have so much, can't afford to go to a different provider or maybe its not available to us in our area. Besides HN will have to do 10 times worse of a job that there doing to loose customers like myself and some others that I know of.

I seen how my old dial up connection acts and how much expensive it was and when it use to go out, i'm never going back to dial up unless its very cheap and has better service and when i pick up the phone i dont hear cracking noises. yeah my old dial up connection and phone was the worst, you could even tap into others conversations just by picking up the phone and holding it to your ear, however it was hard cause of the cracking noise

Sorry for the confusion! My post was in regards to Gen4 in general, and not meant like you are thinking. I meant those who have it already and were getting unmonitored download amounts.

We VERY carefully looked over all the plans, and argued a lot on their forums too. We were sold a Gen4 upgrade as a replacement to 7000S, but luckily got a 9000 modem instead. And before everything was final with the plans and limits, ect I was till trying to get the free Gen4 setup as promised. Finally after everything was ironed out and posted on their site they contacted us to get that arranged and we declined due to Gen4 being more expensive and offering less allowance overall.

That was my intended point, adding to my initial rants here and there :)

I know it's too late now, and I really hope you get things ironed out for you with your Gen4, but I think you should have stayed on the 9000 too!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27755761 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:42:34 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27749505 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27749505 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:52:46 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27749416
When I had Exede12, I was able to Bit Torrent large ISOs at about 2.4MB/sec. That's MegaBytes!!!

With HNG4, the most I've seen is 1.5MB/sec. Which still isn't the 15Mbps. It's more like 13Mbps. Getting 15Mbps is 1.875MB/sec.

I sure hope a software upgrade fixes this fairly soon. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27749416 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:34:47 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748876 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748876 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:43:10 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748941 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748941 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:52:33 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748914
Why doesn't HNG4 perform like Exede??? Why can't HNG4 deliver well over the 15Mbps since it has hardly any users on it??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748914 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:45:28 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748655
This is why the speed test are hard to detect the speed on it. The way you do it, is go to speedtest.net, retest a few times until you see the actual speed. Or just watch where the meter goes instead of reading the final result. Because it comes in burst, you may see the meter go to 15MB for example and then your final result be 2MB. Basically, the speed changes literally about every second.

For example, to get mine to show me a final result of 15MB I have to do the speed test around 5 times. Then it will show 15MB. But even then I can even see the burst on the meter on speedtest.net. I watch the burst and finally I'll get a test that "catches" the burst at 15MB.

In general, this doesn't really matter. You won't notice it while downloading or browsing.

You can tell it's a burst in downloading as you might notice if you download a movie for example, the download might start off slow, like a 2mb speed and two seconds later jump up and download the movie extremely fast. That is because the burst goes up to 15MB. Or 10 MB if that's what you pay for.

It was tricky when I first got it too, because I didn't understand that the satellite internet went in a burst like that.

As far as a burst type speed vs a constant speed like cable internet, I haven't been able to tell a difference. Because it burst up so fast that it's before you ever notice it being at a low speed.

This is why a lot of users do speed test and wonder why they are getting 2MB download. They are actually usually getting faster than that. But they are using a service where they can't see their speed meter and only get the final results, and what it does, is catch it at 2MB down when it's finished.

I hope that makes sense. Go to speedtest.net and you will see what I mean. If it does it too fast for you to see the meter, reload it and do it again about 5 times, and finally you will see your actual results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748655 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:45 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748418
This has been my experience so far:
- Sales and installation: very good (pole mount), Spokane Satellite
-Modem and router (Belkin N750) are compatible
- Internet speeds vary from (low) 2mb to 11mb, my average seems run around 4-7 mb. No complaints, I can stream Hulu and Pandora

Question: depending on what I use for a speed test (speed test.net, HN, Mega Speed, etc.) I wonder which one is the most accurate and consistent?

Example:
speedtest.net: download 9.87 upload 0.70 ping 787
Speak easy: 10.70 0.65 ?
MegaPath: 10.05 0.56

Hughesnet
11/21/2012 10:16:56 6.712 0.929
11/21/2012 09:37:31 5.059 0.950
11/21/2012 09:36:22 6.746 0.959
11/20/2012 23:52:01 5.067 0.655

I have read many 'horror' stories about HN, so I am keeping my fingers crossed they can continue to deliver 'good' service.

So far, so good................ :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748418 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:32:35 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748273 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748273 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:53:27 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748169 said by TexasRebel:

Not evening getting 1/3rd of what I'm supposed to be getting which is 15Mbps.

I don't know why everyone keeps saying that.. that speed is off an advertisement, don't expect too much from advertisements, those lead you to believeing anything. Next you'll be asking where's your free membership for a contract that don't even exist from some spamming and unprotected website that you got from.
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HT1000/ 1 watt/ Power Max plan/ 4 pc's on a D-Link wired router/ wireless D-Link router with password
Support only the gaming company's that matter the most, pay for something that actually is worth buying or has a good reason for how much it's worth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748169 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:28:30 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748131
My service has gone to crap in the past week or so.. Not evening getting 1/3rd of what I'm supposed to be getting which is 15Mbps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27748131 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:18:49 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27747948 said by MeAgain4 :

said by monicakm:

I'm still at 9999 MB remaining LOL

This is the ONLY reason users are currently happy, and the massive influx of complaints has not started yet!

You think this is the only thing that's keeping us as HN customers?? No your wrong, some of us only have so much, can't afford to go to a different provider or maybe its not available to us in our area. Besides HN will have to do 10 times worse of a job that there doing to loose customers like myself and some others that I know of.

I seen how my old dial up connection acts and how much expensive it was and when it use to go out, i'm never going back to dial up unless its very cheap and has better service and when i pick up the phone i dont hear cracking noises. yeah my old dial up connection and phone was the worst, you could even tap into others conversations just by picking up the phone and holding it to your ear, however it was hard cause of the cracking noise
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HT1000/ 1 watt/ Power Max plan/ 4 pc's on a D-Link wired router/ wireless D-Link router with password
Support only the gaming company's that matter the most, pay for something that actually is worth buying or has a good reason for how much it's worth.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27747948 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:11:09 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27747794 »community.myhughesnet.com/hughes···llowance]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27747794 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:35:26 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27706270
At one time I had 60MB down with a cable connection. I had a 250GB cap then. I checked my cap every day just to see what I used. Most months I didn't even use 30GB. With this I have 40GB total. And I'm someone who doesn't watch TV. I stay on the internet all day and watch a ton of youtube and stream a lot of radio.

The only time I took more GB was uploading very large videos. Fortunately for that, my parents have unlimited DSL and my best friend has very fast cable internet. I can go there to upload large files. As far as browsing the web, this cap will be enough for me.

But I don't do bit torrents or download things. I browse the web. I do download albums and movies from itunes, but not every day. So generally it's still pretty low.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27706270 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 07:43:17 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27697737
I noticed some slowdown tonight and I was getting a code that referenced to uplink errors.

I wonder if you are seeing the same code when you get slowdown??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27697737 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:50:11 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691714 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691714 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:34:54 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691701
With satellite, your distance to Dallas doesn't matter. It's the gateway that talks to the closest internet hub and then it's routed back over the satellite to your modem. Our gateway is in Montana. Seattle is closer to Montana than Dallas. It's not so much the distance, but the `hops' it has to make to get to Seattle, which is 1 or 2.

If you got such great signal, and you're getting such low speeds, it's either your router or PC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691701 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:18:32 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691421 Massive storm is overhead here too. LOVE storms! The louder and flashier the better :) Looking at the radar, it's just now on top of us. No rain here so far. System is still up working well.

So when were you getting the 15Mbps downloads? Which plan.
I just tested (with storm overhead, but no rain) Dallas and Seattle
Seattle .85Mbps down, 1.46, 2.69,
Dallas 1.96Mbps down, 1.24, .66
TestMy 2.9Mbps down (sigh)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691421 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:48:29 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691393
we in North Texas all are on the same beam 44 and it's Gateway is in Montana. Where in Montana I don't know, but Seattle is the closest large city for a very large fiber connection to the Internet backbone.

either Speakeasy is lying or it's more accurate than HN's speedtest.

I'm seeing at or just over 15Mbps on the downstream. The upload just barely hits 1Mbps.

Got this massive storm passing overhead now.. Speed and Signal look good so far..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691393 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:24:09 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691149 Uploads were around .10Mbps NOT so good! Glad I haven't signed off on the BBB/Hughes response yet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27691149 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:24:00 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27690984 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27690984 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 19:08:42 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27690725 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27690725 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 17:27:53 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27688277 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27688277 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:08:21 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687877
I don't understand who the hell planned these Gateway and Downlink Beam associations, but I think I could have done a better job.

I would've put the Gateways for southern located beams in states like West Texas and New Mexico due to the drier climates and very little cloud cover.

What happens if Montana gets hit with a blizzard and the Gateway goes down??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687877 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:33:38 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687808 unless this is you Gen 4 Problem being really slow this morning :( this is on the hughes forum from east texas.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687808 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:20:15 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687575 Would someone please tell me what
"reset MBX" is?
Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687575 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:10:59 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687425 TS will be my last resort.
I was just about to restart/reboot the system.
Don't see a soft and hard reboot. Only a
"reboot terminal" option and "reset MBX".
No idea what the latter is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687425 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:29:18 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687370 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687370 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:15:48 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687317 The very night of the very day I said here, "Gen 4...so far so good...I'm happy with it", my browsing speed took a nose dive. Any site (non peak hours) has been painful slow to load. 15 seconds for google.com??? Twenty seconds and more for every other site. Downloads are still good, been better but still good. I tested several different sites.
So watch what you say. Seems HN doesn't want their customers too happy :o
ps...it's the same on two computers with different browser versions. Signal strength 149-152.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27687317 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:02:06 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27684765 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27684765 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 19:00:00 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27684560 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27684560 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 17:43:11 EDT Re: Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27683334 said by monicakm:

I'm still at 9999 MB remaining LOL

This is the ONLY reason users are currently happy, and the massive influx of complaints has not started yet!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27683334 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:53:02 EDT Gen 4/Two Weeks and... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27683048 Monica ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Gen-4Two-Weeks-and-27683048 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:28:59 EDT