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Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:37:01 EDT

TypeS posted : Does anyone know exactly how Google is offering its fiber internet services in Kansas city? The situation there regarding ISPs is no different then here, there's only a handful of incumbents that own either the PSTN wiring or the coax cabling that reaches homes. It seems doublful they'd want to use either like TPIAs here are.

Has google actually built it's own fiber network straight from peering ISPs to homes? Thats a HUGE cost, and at their current pricing on plans, if this is what they did, they are eating the costs and losing money on every subscription.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:57:13 EDT

TwiztedZero posted :

said by Arcturus:

Nothing matters now speed upgrades for existing TSI customers all denied.

This thread can die too I guess now...

Nah, its not as gloomy as it appeared, go and read what TSI Marc posted
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Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:08:04 EDT

Gami00 posted :

said by daeron:

The cost isn't that huge...look at google doing it in the US for 80 bucks a month with a minimal install fee. It can be done.

lols.. google's example is for a totally different reason then what you're thinking.. the price point they're using is because they can make up the difference in loss of profit/revenue with their AD services/data mining, as well as beta testing their new fully integrated TV/remote/AD/quick buy system that the whole thing is setup for.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:40:59 EDT

Arcturus posted : Nothing matters now speed upgrades for existing TSI customers all denied.

This thread can die too I guess now...

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:30:06 EDT

daeron posted :

said by stevey_frac:

I'm not against fast download or upload speeds. I'm arguing against the ridiculous statement that 100mbit synchronous should be the minimum. Most people don't need such a thing, and have no desire to pay for such a beast.

The cost isn't that huge...look at google doing it in the US for 80 bucks a month with a minimal install fee. It can be done.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:27:35 EDT

stevey_frac posted : I'm not against fast download or upload speeds. I'm arguing against the ridiculous statement that 100mbit synchronous should be the minimum. Most people don't need such a thing, and have no desire to pay for such a beast.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:31:00 EDT

mlerner posted :

said by NBomb:

Your attitude is defeatist, and just plain wrong, stevey. There's NO REASON why our internet connections should be any slower than anyone else's in the world. NONE.

This thread is getting a little out of hand because everyone wants to make assumptions about each others usage and demand perfection.

Let me just make one large and detailed point here though, ISPs are commercial businesses who choose the pipes and what plans to offer based on demand and what the customer will pay. This is the same for every industry.

Should Canada have better options? Maybe. But we keep going back to the big ISPs should all of a sudden cave in and drop their profit margins because we demand it when there are roughly 4-6 million Bell and Rogers customers who pay for it willingly and a Government who for all intents and purposes support the business model with preference given on retail vs wholesale services (might change with a new CRTC but time will tell).

This may sound a little negative but here we have a minority and dedicated group made up mostly of us on this forum who choose flexibility yet aren't doing anything to blow up the market and change it.

The one major thing we can do is actually stop attacking each other, making excuses and assumptions and work together to create something to put these big ISPs out of business. If we all did this, we could actually change the market for good.

How? We've talked about peer to peer wireless networks, community fiber projects, maybe even generating funding for a co-op ISP to build infrastructure. But no one is working together to do it.

Let's think about this before we continue on a pointless discussion of usage and who to blame.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:18:18 EDT

anon posted : You can dismiss each individual's need for hi-speed upstream as a niche requirement (business or otherwise), but that doesn't mean that the collection of niche requirements isn't a significant one. In a world where more and more people are working from home, where more and more individuals are becoming content CREATORS (rather than just consumers) I'd say that growing demand for upstream is expected and reasonable. Whether it is growing FASTER than downstream requirements is of course an important consideration.

And once again, there's the "build it and they will come" argument that I think most market research overlooks. If you make affordable hi-speed upstream available, technologies and uses will emerge from that availability.

E.g. cloud services weren't viable until affordable upstream speeds reached a critical point. Prior to this you could have said there was no demand for cloud services, but that would have been an illusion due to the fact cloud services and the required upstream bandwidth didn't yet exist.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:06:14 EDT

NBomb posted : Why the hell are you even arguing against having as fast a speed as we can get? Who cares what the average user does? Do you think that if you request something reasonable from Lord Rogers that you'll be more likely to get a crumb from him, thank you for the pittance sire? How beaten down is this kind of thinking?

The fact is that xfer and storage CONTINUALLY fall in price every year to the providers. The fact is that these savings are NOT being passed on to us.

Your attitude is defeatist, and just plain wrong, stevey. There's NO REASON why our internet connections should be any slower than anyone else's in the world. NONE.

Demand more, get more.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:37:05 EDT

stevey_frac posted : So, not only is your workflow here incredibly atypical to that of the average consumer, I can just as easily argue that I need way faster downloads to do something equally work related. I need to download 500 GB VHD's full of code, and builds, but instead I end up taking home physical drives. But when I upload, I only upload tiny changesets. So your argument doesn't really hold any water. Just like that other guy who wants to upload 4 TB files to the cloud, coming up with a few examples of something that requires a lot of upload doesn't mean the average consumer wants or needs that upload. Plus people can trivially come up with special case scenarios where they need way more download. In the end, it's a wash.

But don't worry! Good News! Rogers and Bell both offer consumer fibre packages now! Both feature 100 mbit+ speeds that are syncronous. You just have to convince Rogers or Bell to run fibre to your home!

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:32:42 EDT

brad posted :

said by stevey_frac:

Honestly, we all know the main use of synchronous packages is torrenting because you can keep your ratio up with your private torrent site. Everyone knows that's what you are really about here. Guess what? Video streaming will kill torrents within the decade. 20% of of North America already has Netflix. Once hulu and/or Netflix offers all of your video content on demand and in stunning HD quality, it won't be worth it to deal with the hassle of torrents, and having to download things in advance.

No, that is an idiotic assumption, you are wrong and you are deluded.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Thu, 31 Jan 2013 05:26:32 EDT

anon posted : To further Gravy's point, I work in the Film Industry and upload mostly from home back to our office. Increased uploads would GREATLY increase my workflow efficiencies. If anyone would like to investigate the file sizes generated by an ARRI ALEXA camera for 1 minute of footage at 24/fps with a colourspace 4:4:4:4 they would easily deduce that upload speed is where it is at for people to actually utilize the internet for work instead of porn and so on. Feel free to investigate the RAW files generated by the RED EPIC camera at 5K res for 1 minute of footage a 24/fps. Upload speeds need to be increased PERIOD! When I deal with production types such as myself in the U.S they are horrified by the speeds I xfer to them at. A lot of the time I have to XFER footage to an external and drive to the office to upload so I can take advantage of the outrageously priced fiber connection which has upload limits even though it costs 1300/month. Get off the torrent train, there are people here that need to upload to make themselves viable to employers, contractors and so on.

Grow UP STEVEY!

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:18:31 EDT

TypeS posted :

said by stevey_frac:

I love how i'm a MIAA / RIAA shill for pointing out that Netflix and Hulu are reducing piracy. Excellent.

Pointing out facts now a apparently gives you political motivations.

Anyways, moving on from that ridiculous argument, How long from the CNOC CRTC decision are we looking at until we can get upgraded to 45/4? Will Teksavvy even let us get upgraded, given the capacity concerns?

There's a thread discussing the CNOC decision here. Apparently it's scheduled for this week?

Also I believe its 35/3 is what 28/1 will get upgraded to.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:49:47 EDT

stevey_frac posted : I love how i'm a MIAA / RIAA shill for pointing out that Netflix and Hulu are reducing piracy. Excellent.

Pointing out facts now a apparently gives you political motivations.

Anyways, moving on from that ridiculous argument, How long from the CNOC CRTC decision are we looking at until we can get upgraded to 45/4? Will Teksavvy even let us get upgraded, given the capacity concerns?

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:41:41 EDT

sbrook posted : Well, that picture isn't quite accurate either since the horizontal scale isn't linear.
Moreover, a large proportion of that spectrum marked as downstream is in fact occupied by Television channels. And there are 3 things occupying the upstream spectrum in the 5-42 MHz band ... there's upstream internet, upstream phone, and upstream cable boxes.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:57:05 EDT

Anaron posted :

said by chrisl83:

It's Shaw home package.. $115 a month, which split between two people is what it costs at teksavvy.. so it's not bad at all.

They even have the same speed but with an unlimited package for $195 a month, but that's overkill in price and usage.. 1tb is plenty.

That was suppose to be to section, qreply didn't work YAY.

»www.shaw.ca/internet/broadband-250/

250/15/1TB for $115/month is better than Rogers' 150/10/250GB for $123/month. If the cost is being split between 2 people, then it's $12 more expensive than TekSavvy's Cable 28 plan. It's still a better deal overall considering the speeds (125/7.5 vs. 28/1, assuming you'd pay for the Cable 28 plan by yourself). And it's certainly cheaper than Rogers' 45/4/150GB plan for $75/month.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:24:53 EDT

TypeS posted : I thought maybe I'd share this:

[att=1]

This is why upload speeds are always a fraction of what the download speed is (to be clear, not why they are as low as 1Mbps, more is possible). Even 2:1 really isn't possible as long as copper coax is the physical medium the internet service is delivered on.

I don't have any statistics on how much it costs to lay fibre but I doubt it' cheap enough for the carriers to start ripping out the ground in every Ontario neighborhood.

Even Verizon in the the U.S. has slowed converting copper lines to fibre to snail's pace.

And before someone mentions Roger's profits, you have to remember a company of Roger's size has many, many departments. Cable internet is probably doesn't bring in the same margins as Digital TV or Wireless, let alone their business and enterprise operations. No company in their right mind is going subsidize the costs of one department with the profits of another. That's just unrealistic.

It'll take time to start getting fibre into a good majority of homes to offer some of the speeds offered in other parts of the world.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 13:05:31 EDT

d4m1r posted :

said by sourtimes:

100/100 should be the minimum standard connection. It's sad to see that service referred to here as 'premium service'. You all have the internet available, take a look at European and Asian internet offerings, even offerings in large urban centres in the US as well. Canada is primitive in comparison.

It is settling for less that will get us nowhere. 100mbps/100mbps synchronous is at a minimum where we should be today, and even faster in the future. With the big move to cloud based systems this will become even more apparent as time moves on. It will happen, in many countries it's already there, we're still living in caves and hunting our data down with blunt clubs in Canada though. It's pathetic how regressed and weak our internet infrastructure is here.

I still think 100mbps/50mbps would be more reasonable though.....Obviously we need a lot faster upload speeds, but in terms ratio to download, I think 2:1 would be sufficient for even cloud storage purposes for example. I base this view largely on usage....Think about how you use the internet...2:1 of the times you are downloading vs uploading (if not higher). Anyway, like I said, I'm sure there is a more scientific calculation to the most "efficient" upload speed that should be paired with a 100mbps download speed...
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Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:19:35 EDT

anon posted :

said by stevey_frac:

As an engineer, I call bullshit.

As an engineer, I call bullshit on your bullshit.

said by stevey_frac:

Markets are analysed, focus groups are called, and product specifications are drafted before engineers and designers build things.

You forgot the part where business people intervene and point out that competition is unnecessary when their company has a monopoly.

said by stevey_frac:

No one is keeping you from your dream. You just want cheap premium service

Nope, just premium service that is sold with markups within the realm of reasonable.

said by stevey_frac:

Honestly, we all know the main use of synchronous packages is torrenting because you can keep your ratio up with your private torrent site. Everyone knows that's what you are really about here.

Honestly - what? I've already given an example of a possible (non-torrent) use for hi-speed upload. There are lots more, you just aren't taking off your blinders.

said by stevey_frac:

Guess what? Video streaming will kill torrents within the decade. 20% of of North America already has Netflix. Once hulu and/or Netflix offers all of your video content on demand and in stunning HD quality, it won't be worth it to deal with the hassle of torrents, and having to download things in advance.

Everyone is going to pay industry-set pricing for their media and be content being told when, where, in what format, on what devices, and how many times they can consume their media, right?
Yeah yeah yeah, that's cute, keep dreaming MIAA/RIAA shill.

Your point is moot, because torrenting is far from the only application for hi-speed upstream.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 05:15:30 EDT

sourtimes posted : 100/100 should be the minimum standard connection. It's sad to see that service referred to here as 'premium service'. You all have the internet available, take a look at European and Asian internet offerings, even offerings in large urban centres in the US as well. Canada is primitive in comparison.

It is settling for less that will get us nowhere. 100mbps/100mbps synchronous is at a minimum where we should be today, and even faster in the future. With the big move to cloud based systems this will become even more apparent as time moves on. It will happen, in many countries it's already there, we're still living in caves and hunting our data down with blunt clubs in Canada though. It's pathetic how regressed and weak our internet infrastructure is here.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:09:26 EDT

brad posted :

said by stevey_frac:

Except that's not at all what you were claiming earlier. Let's remind you, shall we?

said by brad :
100/100 should be the target that all ISPs are working towards as a minimum attainable speed for broadband.

There's a big difference between the statement that we need faster upload, and 100 mbit synchronous is the minimum target that all ISP's should be working towards. Internet use of consumers is asynchronous, and all the technologies of the near future involve more orders of magnitude more download than upload. Video streaming and the cloud are still primarily download based. Yes, you have to upload stuff too, but 10mbit would be enough to offer 2 HD video streams up the the cloud, and that's likely overkill.

Honestly, we all know the main use of synchronous packages is torrenting because you can keep your ratio up with your private torrent site. Everyone knows that's what you are really about here. Guess what? Video streaming will kill torrents within the decade. 20% of of North America already has Netflix. Once hulu and/or Netflix offers all of your video content on demand and in stunning HD quality, it won't be worth it to deal with the hassle of torrents, and having to download things in advance.

This whole post is based on flawed assumptions.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:54:21 EDT

brad posted :

said by stevey_frac:

25% of the community would be a MASSIVE seller, with a ridiculously HUGE market... The service he's talking about would sell to him, and that one guy from Anchorage.

That is complete nonsense.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:01:58 EDT

chrisl83 posted : It's Shaw home package.. $115 a month, which split between two people is what it costs at teksavvy.. so it's not bad at all.

They even have the same speed but with an unlimited package for $195 a month, but that's overkill in price and usage.. 1tb is plenty.

That was suppose to be to section, qreply didn't work YAY.

»www.shaw.ca/internet/broadband-250/

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:41:40 EDT

stevey_frac posted : 25% of the community would be a MASSIVE seller, with a ridiculously HUGE market... The service he's talking about would sell to him, and that one guy from Anchorage.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:40:50 EDT

Anaron posted :

said by chrisl83:

July can't come fast enough for me.

»i.imgur.com/Dhrqdho.jpg

Ontario you wont be missed.. at all.

Shaw has a similar (or possibly even the same) business plan for $349.95/month. As much as I'd like faster upload speeds, I wouldn't resort to paying for a business line. If you're using that at work though, then enjoy it because we won't see home speeds that high for a long time.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:39:53 EDT

d4m1r posted :

said by brad:

And yet there are things designed all the time that has no perceived market or real world use. This isn't premium service. No one has claimed that everyone needs it. Less than 1% of the customer base needs or even wants 150Mbps service yet it exists. There are a lot more people who need faster upload speeds than need the ridiculously high download speeds.

This....It's not often I agree with brads black and white statement, but in this case, it's true :) Engineers aren't in the marketing business....They create things they are paid to create, and that money comes from companies looking to flip the service for a profit....It doesn't need to be adopted by 99% of the population for a profit, far from that in fact....If it will be beneficial for 25% of the population, it should be made available and it would be profitable to offer it. The other good point is, that 25% might not even currently realize it would be beneficial for them because they currently don't engage in any activities using upload at the moment because of the slow speeds but I'm sure as well they would if the speeds increased....
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Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:39:28 EDT

stevey_frac posted : Except that's not at all what you were claiming earlier. Let's remind you, shall we?

said by brad :
100/100 should be the target that all ISPs are working towards as a minimum attainable speed for broadband.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:37:03 EDT

funny posted :

said by The Mongoose:

The problem is that the monopoly situation in telecom does stifle innovation to some degree. Were we in a situation of real competition, I have no doubt speeds would be faster and prices lower.

That being said, super-high speeds for super-low prices or other such demands have no basis in fact. As stevey_frac mentions, engineers don't just design products for which there is no market. 100/100 would probably cost about $150/month at the very least, far more than the average consumer wants to pay. The up-front costs of installing fibre would be prohibitive in many places. The market for super-high upload speeds is still very small, though it will certainly grow.

If fibre were available everywhere, everyone in Ontario would have access to 250/250 for $226 a month. Even I wouldn't pay that, and I'm dying for higher upload speeds. I think we have to be realistic about what the market is really looking for, and accept that way out on the high end of the curve, prices are going to remain very high for a long time. A better focus might be on getting mainstream high-speed plans (45/4, 25/10, etc) into people's hands for more reasonable markups than the ones being enjoyed by the monopolist incumbents today. This is the role of TSI, Start, and the other TPIA providers. It's just unfortunate that they have to rely on the slow and often broken machinations of the CRTC to make it happen.

the problem is look at ovh
you can see what a server dedicated costs and as little as what for a 100 megabit unlimited ( 32 tb/month )

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:35:36 EDT

funny posted :

said by brad:

I can only imagine what the world would be like if engineers and designers just gave up and said to themselves no one needs the things I'm trying to design. Why should I ever bother, why try to push the boundaries of technology. You wouldn't have a broadband connection. You wouldn't be sitting at home using a computer. etc. etc.

i mean why have cars , why have computers why have tools of any kind( looks at lion as he blows its headoff then goes to eat lion burgers while he finds bits a you in its gut....)
dummiest thing anyone could ever have said

LIKE why make h265 that could cut world wide bandwidth by a third or more WHY DO that ? h265 is here....and now those SD.X264 you see if they did with h265 well they'd be 90 megs for a tv ep and 200 for a movie
200 megabyte for a movie that is actually above ( by a factor of two or more regular non HD tvs )
ya why dont we see dvdrs ( dual layer is aobut 9gb with 30 movies ?)
ya god forbid tech actually did what the consumer wanted
instead a some gay stuffy lawyer thats got some actor or musician up his butt and a hooker and cocaine habit and yacht mortgage

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:05:47 EDT

brad posted :

said by stevey_frac:

As an engineer, I call bullshit. Markets are analysed, focus groups are called, and product specifications are drafted before engineers and designers build things. No one is keeping you from your dream. You just want cheap premium service. If you guys REALLY need to upload 4 TB of data, get a 100 mbit synchronous fibre connection. It's available to you now. But don't claim that everyone needs it.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 16:16:32 EDT

chrisl83 posted : July can't come fast enough for me.

»i.imgur.com/Dhrqdho.jpg

Ontario you wont be missed.. at all.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:47:21 EDT

The Mongoose posted : The problem is that the monopoly situation in telecom does stifle innovation to some degree. Were we in a situation of real competition, I have no doubt speeds would be faster and prices lower.

That being said, super-high speeds for super-low prices or other such demands have no basis in fact. As stevey_frac mentions, engineers don't just design products for which there is no market. 100/100 would probably cost about $150/month at the very least, far more than the average consumer wants to pay. The up-front costs of installing fibre would be prohibitive in many places. The market for super-high upload speeds is still very small, though it will certainly grow.

If fibre were available everywhere, everyone in Ontario would have access to 250/250 for $226 a month. Even I wouldn't pay that, and I'm dying for higher upload speeds. I think we have to be realistic about what the market is really looking for, and accept that way out on the high end of the curve, prices are going to remain very high for a long time. A better focus might be on getting mainstream high-speed plans (45/4, 25/10, etc) into people's hands for more reasonable markups than the ones being enjoyed by the monopolist incumbents today. This is the role of TSI, Start, and the other TPIA providers. It's just unfortunate that they have to rely on the slow and often broken machinations of the CRTC to make it happen.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:35:15 EDT

mlerner posted :

said by stevey_frac:

Agreed completely.

I'd also like to mention, the cable network is still quite limited even with all the advances in DOCSIS and cable technology. Once GPON fibre goes everywhere in urban cities then the options for speed flexibility is there.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:09:56 EDT

stevey_frac posted : As an engineer, I call bullshit. Markets are analysed, focus groups are called, and product specifications are drafted before engineers and designers build things. No one is keeping you from your dream. You just want cheap premium service. If you guys REALLY need to upload 4 TB of data, get a 100 mbit synchronous fibre connection. It's available to you now. But don't claim that everyone needs it.

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Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:50:58 EDT

resa1983 posted : Decision is scheduled for next week sometime. :)
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Sat, 26 Jan 2013 06:03:23 EDT

brad posted : I can only imagine what the world would be like if engineers and designers just gave up and said to themselves no one needs the things I'm trying to design. Why should I ever bother, why try to push the boundaries of technology. You wouldn't have a broadband connection. You wouldn't be sitting at home using a computer. etc. etc.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:49:19 EDT

c2roth posted :

said by WhyNoUpload:

For those that say we don't need the faster upload speeds...

[att=1]

Why you uploading 4TB bla bla bla. Who cares? I don't have to remind you all what happens when you saturate your cable upstream. It's been hell uploading these files, i need faster upload speeds so I can be done with this.

As another heavy CrashPlan user I can say bring on more upload!

Dammit it takes so long to do backups to the cloud. So painful.

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 19:08:34 EDT

WhyNoUpload posted : [att=1]

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:38:51 EDT

MrKingJames posted :

said by WhyNoUpload:

said by geokilla:

Lol uploading 4TB... That's a lot of porn.

lol. All I can say is it's not porn or movies.

you're one sketchy guy

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:34:26 EDT

WhyNoUpload posted :

said by geokilla:

Lol uploading 4TB... That's a lot of porn.

lol. All I can say is it's not porn or movies.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:24:44 EDT

stevey_frac posted : And I think we'd all agree with that. It's the 100 mbit up we think is a bit overkill for consumers right now.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:06:13 EDT

geokilla posted :

said by WhyNoUpload:

Lol uploading 4TB... That's a lot of porn.

I'm not asking for crazy uploads. I just want something like 5mbps upload. 2mbps is the bare minimum for me.

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:39:11 EDT

TypeS posted :

said by davegravy :

said by bt:

But having it on consumer-grade internet is not an actual necessity. Not even close.

Depends on your definition of necessity. Again, on the extreme end, the entire internet could be argued to be not a necessity.

Fact is, it's technologically, and economically feasible to offer this, as evidenced by other nations, SO GIVE IT TO US.

I want to live in a nation that finds innovative uses for things we have but don't "need". Not a nation that points to other nations and says "look what they discovered they can do with this technology... I wish we had that!"

That depends on what you mean feasible. As along as copper is used to get inside homes, residential internet connections will always be highly asymmetrical. And that's simply just because of how DSL and Cable were designed in the 1990s.

That doens't of course higher speeds aren't possible, blanket rolling to 10Mbps upload out should be the short term goal for now. It's going to be a long time before the majority homes have a fibre run into them.

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:39:10 EDT

stevey_frac posted : Much better than a 24 month wait.... 2 years later? LOL.

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:25:47 EDT

dmitry_tek posted : There are multiple mailing services located in Buffalo, NY. The one I know about costs 6 dollars for single package. Basically, you can provide their address and then drive there to pick it up.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:03:11 EDT

WhyNoUpload posted : No I'm in Canada, but this company doesn't allow hard drives to be sent to them. You must use their seed service where they send you the hard drive. They are located in the states and can't ship the drive to Canada.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:57:02 EDT

stevey_frac posted : Don't you mean from Canada? Or is that you downloading? Or are you not located in Canada but get Teksavvy service anyways?

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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:28:45 EDT

WhyNoUpload posted : They don't ship to Canada, I would've done that a long time ago.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:24:00 EDT

anon posted :

said by bt:

But having it on consumer-grade internet is not an actual necessity. Not even close.

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:19:38 EDT

bt posted :

said by booj:

said by bt:

You want faster upload. You have a practical, legitimate use for faster upload.

But having it on consumer-grade internet is not an actual necessity. Not even close.

Can't even host a decent game of minecraft with current speeds. There are a millions uses for faster uploads.

I completely agree!

But having a use, or even a million uses, does not make something a necessity.