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Metatron2008
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Re: Apple now has a Lightning to Micro USB Cable

said by Count Zero:

Btw every new apple iPhone and iPad and iPod that uses lightning comes with a lightning USB cable...

The problem comes in all the accessories for apple products. One of the main reasons I'm gonna get an iPad 3 if they ever have a liquidation sale..


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A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900 mA) in USB 3.0.



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In case you're unaware these standards define maximum power as well.


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said by Count Zero:

In case you're unaware these standards define maximum power as well.

Yes and no, Smart USB chargers can output 5V 2.1A. The standard applies more to PC connections rather than charging solutions.


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I think it applies to any application with data throughput. PCs and functional accessories.



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with all this talk of USB-a, USB-b, this power, that power, backwards compatible, not backwards compatible...some "standard".

Lightning, it just works.


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said by dirtyjeffer:

with all this talk of USB-a, USB-b, this power, that power, backwards compatible, not backwards compatible...some "standard".

Lightning, it just works.

That's the benefit when you have iron control over your ecosystem and only three devices to support, not hundreds (the downside).


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nothing wrong with control...it means you don't end up with varying levels of quality items out there...some good stuff, likely lots of crap...when there is a standard that must be adhered to, it levels the playing field...if i were Apple, and i had a very large brand to protect, i would want to ensure some $2 crappy cable didn't ruin one of my customer's purchases.

you have to remember, Apple does things differently...they don't just sell you a device, they sell you an experience...any of those other devices, you simply buy it, and figure it out on your own...with an Apple product, you can go to an Apple store, sit in on a seminar to learn how to use it, get some one-on-one time with a "Genius" to provide some custom assistance focused on what you need...nobody else (currently) does that...you give them your money, and the transaction is done...it is this "extra" that has helped Apple separate itself as "just another" tablet or smartphone manufacturer.

some people are willing to pay a little more that, some aren't...their products are well made, they work great and you can get that "little extra" if you need it...sure it costs a bit more, but it was never Apple's intent to win a race to the bottom.
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said by dirtyjeffer:

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you have to remember, Apple does things differently...they don't just sell you a device, they sell you an experience...any of those other devices, you simply buy it, and figure it out on your own...with an Apple product, you can go to an Apple store, sit in on a seminar to learn how to use it, get some one-on-one time with a "Genius" to provide some custom assistance focused on what you need...nobody else (currently) does that...you give them your money, and the transaction is done...it is this "extra" that has helped Apple separate itself as "just another" tablet or smartphone manufacturer.

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How romantic and cute. I like my iPhone and iPad but I can't get emotionally attached to them as many do. Experience? It's an electronic device . I concede. I don't think I'm on the same plane as those that are so emotionally tied to Apple and thus I will likely never understand and any further discussion from me is probably worthless.

It was interesting earlier that because I was saying something negative about Apple I was branded an Android fan. That says it all really.
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You realize that I didn't reply to you when I made the android comment and there are other people in this thread that own droids right? You shouldn't take things personally.



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How romantic and cute. I like my iPhone and iPad but I can't get emotionally attached to them as many do. Experience? It's an electronic device .

you are not understand my point...i'm not talking about romance or emotional attachment to a brand...i am talking about "Customer Experience"...while plenty of people (many of whom i work with) are fine to grab an android device, sideload all kinds of different OSs and do all kinds of funky things with them, they are the exception, not the norm...many people just want it to work and do what the bought it for (phone, email, messaging, web, apps)...in that respect every device works quite well, but Apple does have that extra service available, should that be of interest to you.

case in point, several people i work with drive Lexus vehicles...are the Lexus vehicles really that much better than their Toyota (or other brand) equivalents?...debatable, but probably not...however, they drop their vehicles off for service/maintenance, get a Lexus loaner for the day and continue on business as usual, rather than get dropped off in a courtesy vehicle and be without wheels for the day...the Lexus dealership has a much higher level of service, and really, isn't that much more money to get your work done at...they don't do $9.99 Oil Changes, or $79 brake jobs...they do have competitive prices on what they do, but their niche is service, so for a little more than what most places charge, you get a much higher level of service...that is the Customer Experience, and many companies are following that business model, rather than a race to the bottom.
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Service has it's time and place, but again many people are not willing to pay the premium involved for such a thing, and only a handful who do utilize said service.

Your quote is a misquote by the way, there is no evidence that Orwell actually said it. He has similar thoughts in his writings on nationalism and Rudyard Kipling, but no direct quotes. The closest is Churchill saying, "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."



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said by sk1939:

Service has it's time and place, but again many people are not willing to pay the premium involved for such a thing, and only a handful who do utilize said service.

i would tend to disagree, considering the number of products Apple sells...as well, the few times i have been to their store, it is always jam packed with people getting instructions on things or attending one of their seminars (which they do several a day on).
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said by dirtyjeffer:

said by sk1939:

Service has it's time and place, but again many people are not willing to pay the premium involved for such a thing, and only a handful who do utilize said service.

i would tend to disagree, considering the number of products Apple sells...as well, the few times i have been to their store, it is always jam packed with people getting instructions on things or attending one of their seminars (which they do several a day on).

Must be a locale thing, down here its mostly window shoppers and people purchasing. Seminars are usually attended by older people who drive their Prii to get there.


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our store is a mixed bag...teens window shopping, young adults buying, older people looking/buying...plenty of people taking the seminars, but not usually the "youngins".



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said by dirtyjeffer:

said by Nezmo:

I have two Apple cables that have come apart at the plug (the cable sheathing has separated where it enters the plug). I never pull a cord by the cable, only by the plug and when not in use I curl it up loosely and put it in a drawer. Again, the premium Apple is charging is a gouge. They can still set their products apart if they must by charging more than $2 but the money they want for their cables and adapters is rather sad.

the previous connector was used for the last 9 years...a new connector was needed as it was too large for the new chassis...i highly doubt the issues you have seen with your old connector would happen with the Lightning connector...it is a much better connector (my iPad and nano use the old connector).

Hopefully the new connector is better. The information in this thread about Apple OEM cables is more of what I have seen.

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I had 10+ Apple USB-30 pin cables and only saw a very few every have problems and they were always several years old or very heavily used and abused when they started showing signs of wear.

I did see a problem with Apple's original MagSafe connectors having wear & tear at the juncture but since they've gone to the L shaped connector that has been much better.


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said by Count Zero:

I had 10+ Apple USB-30 pin cables and only saw a very few every have problems and they were always several years old or very heavily used and abused when they started showing signs of wear.

I did see a problem with Apple's original MagSafe connectors having wear & tear at the juncture but since they've gone to the L shaped connector that has been much better.

Perhaps, but the new Magsafe 2 is back to the original T design sadly (will probably see the same problems).


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Well let's hope not for the consumer's sake. I think it's possible that if they use thicker/stiffer/sturdier rubber on the cable that perhaps the wear and tear won't be as bad - but only time will tell.


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It seems a bit sturdier at the cuff so it should be ok.