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birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:9
reply to codydog

Re: FiOS - Ethernet Instead of MoCA!

One quick visual check: is anything plugged in to the WAN ethernet port on the Actiontec? If not, and you have internet, you are using MoCA.

But, just because you have something plugged into it, doesn't mean you're using ethernet WAN. Log in to the router status page and look on the left panel for Broadband Connection type. It will identify either coax or ethernet


codydog

join:2001-11-29
Newport, RI

thanks. its coax



birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:9

You (or someone with the tools) can run your own ethernet. I don't remember if you previously posted you are restricted by landlord or not. That may be the barrier.



ctaranto

join:2011-12-14
MA
reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

If you have their cable service you have to use MOCA. Also they will not convert you to ethernet only unless you have a 100Mbps package

That simply is not true. I have FiOS TV and Internet. The Internet is 35/35. I'm using Ethernet to the Actiontec. I just had to ask.

-Craig


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to brianiscool

quote:
If you have their cable service you have to use MOCA. Also they will not convert you to ethernet only unless you have a 100Mbps package
NOT TRUE

If you have FiOS TV, you can use cat5 wiring for your internet, the router still gets fed with COAX for use with the TV services.

Anyone can buy their own cat5e and run it to router, and call to switch it to ethernet. LEAVE THE COAX IN PLACE.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA

Ethernet is optional at the customers request for all plans under 150/65.

Ethernet is required for the 150 and 300 plan.



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
reply to ITALIAN926

For shits and Giggles, I just switched my internet from MocA to ethernet, I shaved off a whole 6ms off my ping. Will I ever notice a difference? Doubtful.



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2
reply to DarkDune

Why are you pinging two different servers, then comparing them? Shouldnt you be pinging the SAME destination?


ScrawnyB

join:2004-05-18
Carlisle, PA
kudos:1

His IP (and subsequently, his gateway) changed whenever his connection was switched from moca/coax to ethernet, as a result of the DHCP release/renew process.

Not all of Verizon's IP's are in the same (sequential) IP pool/subnets for one area.



ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

Ohhhh I thought he was pinging an outside server, I get it now, thanx



DarkDune

@verizon.net

Have to update my results post, I wasn't pinging my Internet Gateway. Here are the updated results after the switch to Ethernet from MoCA:

Verizon switched it!

Here is that ping difference to the first hop upstream router (note that the gateway IP changed):

Before the switch (from the OP):

C:\Users\username>ping 108.49.145.1 -t

Pinging 108.49.145.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.49.145.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=125

Ping statistics for 108.49.145.1:
Packets: Sent = 8, Received = 8, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 12ms, Average = 8ms

After the switch:

C:\Users\username>ping 108.20.201.1 -t

Pinging 108.20.201.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 108.20.201.1: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.20.201.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.20.201.1: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.20.201.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.20.201.1: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=125
Reply from 108.20.201.1: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=125

Ping statistics for 108.20.201.1:
Packets: Sent = 6, Received = 6, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 5ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 5ms

Pretty interesting. So using the Coaxial (note you may need to if you have TV through FiOS) adds almost 2-5 ms to the ping!



dennismurphy
Put me on hold? I'll put YOU on hold
Premium
join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

If you have their cable service you have to use MOCA. Also they will not convert you to ethernet only unless you have a 100Mbps package

Stop talking out your ass. You're completely wrong in everything you said.

bsangs

join:2002-08-21
Montclair, NJ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to brianiscool

said by brianiscool:

If you have their cable service you have to use MOCA. Also they will not convert you to ethernet only unless you have a 100Mbps package

This is completely false. I have FiOS internet, TV and digital voice. Have the 50/25 package and am provisioned for ethernet. Just set up the cabling yourself, make a phone call, tell them you switched it over to ethernet and it takes about 15 minutes to get provisioned.

Flycat

join:2003-05-12
Lawrence, MA

What do you have to ask for? I called in to support and they insisted on putting me through to billing.

After waiting on hold for 10 minutes, the billing dept informed me that a tech visit would be required costing me a min of $110. When I informed her that I read I could wire it myself she admitted that she was completely unfamiliar with the request.

I only have fios internet and want to do away with the coax run into my living room.



birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:9

said by Flycat:

What do you have to ask for?

Run the ethernet, connect it up to WAN, leave both ethernet and coax connected, then request switch in the »Verizon Direct forum. When switch is made, router will reboot and pick up new connection.

Except for reboot, you'll have data connection before and after. You can't predict when VZDirect will make the switch, but it will happen.

After reboot, verify WAN connection by checking router main status page. Then you can remove coax connection.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

quote:
After reboot, verify WAN connection by checking router main status page. Then you can remove coax connection.
You dont remove coax if you have FiOS TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


birdfeedr
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:9

said by ITALIAN926:

You dont remove coax if you have FiOS TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was replying to a specific scenario.
said by Flycat:

I only have fios internet and want to do away with the coax run into my living room.

You're absolutely right that the MoCA LAN is needed to get data to the STB and DVR. But, I have FiOS TV service and don't need the Actiontec.

I don't use FiOS TV hardware, except for a cablecard and a DCT-700, neither of which are data-enabled.


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:2

Ah sorry, didnt see the post you replied to.
But the intent was more for others reading, who likely have TV as well.