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Re: New AV Program - Opinion on Options I been a satisfied Kaspersky Internet Security user for 7 years! Yes...there are versions that have been resource hungry, but it hasn't been bad enough on my 9 year old desktop with Windows XP to stop using it. |
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rotbau
join:2000-08-24
Minneapolis, MN | reply to rotbau
So far I haven't noticed any slow down on regular use with the Kaspersky trial. I think KIS is more of a pig than KAV.
I did encounter a few websites that load slow with the website checking features enabled. A was trying to view a video on Duracell's website last night and it froze until Kaspersky did it's thing. If I disabled the browser plug-in then it loaded fine. Virpre used to do the same thing.
I can add regular visited websites to an exclusion list so there is a work-around. |
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Moved from Avast Free to Kaspersky Antivirus.
Avast failed me, did research and it was between Bitdefender and Kaspersky (they are basically neck and neck).
Went with Kaspersky just because I read more issues with Bitdefender.
I'm very satisfied with Kaspersky and it doesn't seem to bog down my computer like others say.
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Stick with Webroot, you will find it fast, light, and effective.
Bit Defender can whack a PC, I don't trust it. Kaspersky is a hog, even on fast PC's. F-Secure will make you cry at times the way it escalates to huge CPU loads for random reasons. Avira was good, now it's not good. |
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I'm using Bitdefender at present. I was using NIS but the 2013 version doesn't seem as good as the 2012 version. Rather than revert to the 2012 version (as some users have done), I thought I'd give Bitdefender a try instead.
A couple of glitches. It kept wanting to reboot at every update. This problem seemed to get fixed fairly quickly by Bitdefender. Also, I had a warning about an AV problem where I'm sure none existed. A repair install cured this.
Other than that, it has generally run OK and I'm happy to stay with it, at least until the current version of Norton gets better ..and maybe even longer than that. |
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rotbau
join:2000-08-24
Minneapolis, MN | reply to rotbau
Update in case anyone cares.
So far I've tried:
- Webroot: Nice and light, I just haven't completely bought in to this product yet.
-F-Secure: Tried both the AV and the Internet security products. I liked the product but I seem to have slow down issues with both. Really pegged my CPU at times and might be having a bad interaction with the ATI catalyst control panel.
- Avira Free: Seemed nice. No frills but light.
- BitDefender: Downloaded the trial but couldn't pull the trigger on installing it due to some things I've read on it really wacking some peoples computers. I know, I'm chicken.
- Kaspersky AV 2013: Currently running a trial Kaspersky Av 2013 (not KIS). So far I like it. After install it found several Java based trojans in a temp internet file folder. Presumably these were there with the other products installed and full scans didn't find them. I know KIS is considered to be quite heavy on resources but KAV has seemed good so far. I like that KAV has some of the internet protection features like the virtual keyboard and website reputation checking and I read some good things about the Automatic Exploit Protection feature. |
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rotbau
join:2000-08-24
Minneapolis, MN | reply to antdude
I think I detect a hint of sarcasm there but not sure  .
I'm have to admit, I'm prejudiced against Norton so I'm not considering it. I managed several corporate networks in the past and Symantec Endpoint absolutely crushed the performance of our workstations. I haven't used NIS but I tend to just want to run an AV vs. the entire protection suite. |
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4 | reply to rotbau
No Norton? :P |
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to poppster
said by poppster:all i am saying is if you are intending on installing a program you should be there to see what it does. Gone are the day of 100mhz pc's with 16kb of ram...so time shouldn't be a real issue, but if you don't have the time to watch an install, then you probably shouldn't be installing it anyways.
Thats my opinion.
With Avast, you COULD BE watching the install, blink, sneeze, blow your nose and lo and behold Chrome is installed. Avast, sadly to say, has become extremely aggressive in recent versions about trying to force Chrome on users. They weren't always this way and it is sad what is happening with them now.
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 sivranOpera ex-patPremium
join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
kudos:1 | reply to poppster
And she was totally asking for it by dressing the way she did, too. |
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 Elite
join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT | reply to Mele20
said by Mele20:I mentioned it. Did you miss my post where I said I will be using Windows Defender (at least for awhile) on my new machine? That is the name for MSE on Windows 8.
How foolish of me. Anyhow, the OP is using 7, which is still MSE territory. I too, am using "Defender" on Win 8.
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Mele20Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to Elite
said by Elite:I don't know why nobody has mentioned Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free, and made by Microsoft (that could be a good or bad thing).
My argument with MSE was always as follows... Microsoft wrote your OS. They know more about it than anyone else. Hell, they even have the source code... to the whole thing. They can change whatever elements of the OS they'd like at any given time (via Windows Update). They can (potentially) write the best scanning engine, by leveraging their "we make the OS" advantage.
They also probably have more money and programmers than every single AV company mentioned in this thread COMBINED.
I mentioned it. Did you miss my post where I said I will be using Windows Defender (at least for awhile) on my new machine? That is the name for MSE on Windows 8.
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Re: New AV Program - Opinion on Options said by poppster:...so time shouldn't be a real issue, but if you don't have the time to watch an install, then you probably shouldn't be installing it anyways.
I don't accept that it's a question of "having the time".  I would assume, at a minimum, that "opting into" a new program, other than the one, that you are, in fact, choosing to install, should be voluntary.
A splash screen with an "un-check in the next 11 seconds" box doesn't fit that bill to me. As I said, you could be grabbing a coffee, answering the door, phone, etc. Many people have multiple PCs. I can be working away or playing a game on one, while maintaining the other. If the splash screen stayed up until you intervened, whether that be 12 seconds or 12 hours? OK. Annoying, but ok.
Also, it was clear that an insufficient amount of pre-release testing went on prior to that version. Problems were legion. As well as insufficient testing of the Chrome install process. Destroying existing installations would seem to me, to be something that should be tested for. What else wasn't tested about this?, would seem an obvious question.
For the above reasons, I have trouble trusting the makers of Avast! at the moment. I understand that not everyone shares the opinion. But the OP was asking for opinions. I also understand "why" they might do what they did. They provide a free version, and bills have to get paid one way or another.
For the record, I run MSE after ditching Avast! May not be the best, but doesn't seem to bog down my systems much, and I am a fairly low risk browser/downloader. I run an A/V mainly for some peace of mind. Haven't had an actual infection in years (admittedly that I know of...).
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join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT
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I don't know why nobody has mentioned Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free, and made by Microsoft (that could be a good or bad thing).
My argument with MSE was always as follows... Microsoft wrote your OS. They know more about it than anyone else. Hell, they even have the source code... to the whole thing. They can change whatever elements of the OS they'd like at any given time (via Windows Update). They can (potentially) write the best scanning engine, by leveraging their "we make the OS" advantage.
They also probably have more money and programmers than every single AV company mentioned in this thread COMBINED.
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 poppsterTell the truth and then run.Premium
join:2003-12-23
Midwest
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Re: New AV Program - Opinion on Options all i am saying is if you are intending on installing a program you should be there to see what it does. Gone are the day of 100mhz pc's with 16kb of ram...so time shouldn't be a real issue, but if you don't have the time to watch an install, then you probably shouldn't be installing it anyways.
Thats my opinion. |
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IanPremium
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said by poppster:if you are installing a program why would you intentionally leave during the process? Still operator error.
Not everyone likes to stare at a screen for no useful purpose while their computer boots?
Avast! Drive-by installed with a (momentary) process to opt out a (potentially) damaging program, by default. Again, if you're happy with that sort of behaviour from the software companies that you choose to trust with important tasks, to each their own. I'm not.
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poppsterTell the truth and then run.Premium
join:2003-12-23
Midwest
kudos:1 | reply to Ian
if you are installing a program why would you intentionally leave during the process? Still operator error. |
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said by poppster:So you can't un click "install chrome" during installation? If people would just watch what they are clicking during installs this wouldn't happen.
wow, thats the hardest thing I've ever done in my life.
If people would read anything more carefully, not an issue, I guess. For example, if you had read my post carefully, you would have noted that Avast! didn't wait for you to confirm. If you, say, went to grab a coffee while your system was re-booted, then you got Chrome. In many cases, destroying your existing installation of it.
If you're ok with software companies doing that type of thing, great. I'm not. And for now, coupled with a buggy program version, Avast! has no place on any of my systems. If you're happy with it, super.
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