Topic 'Full System Backup in Windows 8' in forum 'Microsoft Help' - dslreports.com

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:22:55 EDT

Kramer posted : Well I am playing around with Windows backup and I am beginning to see why you read what you read. I am trying (to absolutely no success) to set up "File History". When I click the control panel icon, nothing happens. I have been reading a lot about it and what I have discovered is that the Windows 7 backup service and File History cannot co-exist. One is turned off if the other is on. That's fine and dandy except that I have tried everything to make "File History" work and I can't. I've turned off the backup service, I've checked to make sure Windows Search is turned on (yes this needs to be on for File History), I've rebooted, I've made sure there were no backup tasks defined and nothing works. Very frustrated. I read one review of "File History" which stated it appeared to be written by an intern and I am beginning to agree.

Anyway, what you read may very well be correct. If you want to use all the features of Windows 8, you may very well have to turn that Windows 7 feature off. That's too bad.

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:49:04 EDT

Blackbird posted :

said by SipSizzurp:

said by Blackbird:

In what way it an "unpleasant thing" for Microsoft to keep the functional cloning program from a previous version of Windows ? I'm not trying to be facetious, but I completely missed your point.

Sorry for perhaps being unclear. I was aluding to a possibility that "unpleasant" or "unexpected" things can happen in a development cycle that force a change in plans. In this case, I was referring to a possibility that integrating full backup into Win8's new backup scheme might have produced some negative results, and the fallback position might have been to employ Win7's scheme so as to have at least some full-backup capability. As I said, it's purely speculative on my part, but it "feels" as if something of this sort might have occurred, since Win8 was perfectly willing to plow all sorts of new wholly-integrated ground with no reference to earlier MS OSs.
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Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:34:17 EDT

SipSizzurp posted :

said by Blackbird:

In what way it an "unpleasant thing" for Microsoft to keep the functional cloning program from a previous version of Windows ? I'm not trying to be facetious, but I completely missed your point.

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:18:27 EDT

Blackbird posted :

said by Dustyn:

... Seems like they missed the head of the nail with Windows 8 backup.

Lots of unexpected or unpleasant things happen on the way to a released product... this might be one of them. Which is why I said keeping Win7's backup tools may have been the "easiest" way to get full-backup capability - and keep the Win8 end product more or less on schedule. I have no way of knowing, of course. But to me, it has that sort of "feel" about it.
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Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:53:24 EDT

Dustyn posted : Gee, thanks tips.
Microsoft touts their new file backup system tool as the successor to Windows 7's backup restore, yet they integrate the previous version into Windows 8 for FULL backup capabilities?.... Seems like they missed the head of the nail with Windows 8 backup.

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:44:30 EDT

Blackbird posted :

said by Dustyn:

Why would Microsoft keep this?
If the new Windows 8's version is better at file backup and recovery, seems redundant to also keep Windows 7 Backup and Restore.

Maybe because hard drives still fail, and keeping Win7's backup tools was the easiest way to provide full-backup image capability within Win8?
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Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:08:19 EDT

Dustyn posted : Why would Microsoft keep this?
If the new Windows 8's version is better at file backup and recovery, seems redundant to also keep Windows 7 Backup and Restore.

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:26:49 EDT

Kramer posted :

said by JohnInSJ:

said by Kramer:

It will be interesting whether Windows backup supports the super huge hard drives. Previously it didn't. My understanding is it will, but I haven't tried yet.

It does, which is nice :)

Thanks. I came across a $100 Dell gift card today and used to order a 2TB Seagate external.

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:21:37 EDT

JohnInSJ posted :

said by Kramer:

It will be interesting whether Windows backup supports the super huge hard drives. Previously it didn't. My understanding is it will, but I haven't tried yet.

It does, which is nice :)
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Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:45:30 EDT

mozerd posted : Backup and Recovery of Windows 8 - Tip-of-the-Day #ITPro #Windows8

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:49:31 EDT

Freddy posted : The information I saw said that Microsoft changed backup in Windows 8 because only about 5% of users actually used the full backup feature.

They found that most users were interested only in backing up their personal stuff, like pictures, documents and the like. That's the way it is.

Freddy

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:14:09 EDT

Kramer posted : It will be interesting whether Windows backup supports the super huge hard drives. Previously it didn't. My understanding is it will, but I haven't tried yet.

Re: Full System Backup in Windows 8

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:47:25 EDT

KoRnGtL15 posted : Yeah it has the same settings as Windows 7. They just hide it more in Windows 8 hoping you wont use it I suppose.

Full System Backup in Windows 8

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:14:52 EDT

Freddy posted : Most of the information about backup in Windows 8 says you can no longer create full system images, nor can you back up everything on your hard drive. Instead, you can only back up files in your libraries, files on your desktop, your contacts, and your browser favorites, using Windows 8's File History.

I learned that that information is not totally true. I just made a full system backup image using Windows 8. Windows 8 includes the full system image backup used in Windows 7. Take a look at the picture I made of this feature in Windows 8. Note where you can find it (look at the address bar). If you can't find it, just do a search within Control Panel.

Nice!

Freddy