 DrDrewSo that others may surf.
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Re: Bad Gateway said by bluepoint:That's what I'm trying to point at the router is busy. Why was it pinging 30ms before the storm and 2000ms now? What do you think happens? Wouldn't you think gaming will be affected?
It's not 2000ms now, it's not responding now. At least that's what you said and showed originally.
If it's 2000ms then show us.
Use PingPlotter, run it for awhile, and post some graph screenshots. A single tracert with single hop times don't show enough to really give a good answer.
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1 edit | Ok I just did a tracert and it's better and it's responding. :uhh:
1: 0 ms 192.168.1.1
2: 458 ms 68.174.228.1 (cpe-68-174-228-1.si.res.rr.com)
3: 15 ms 24.164.129.218 (24-164-129-218.si.rr.com)
4: 0 ms 24.164.128.34 (tenge-0-4-0-4-nycmny1-rtr02.si.rr.com)
5: 15 ms 184.152.112.147 (bun119.nycmnytg-rtr001.nyc.rr.com)
6: 15 ms 24.29.148.250 (bun6-nycmnytg-rtr002.nyc.rr.com)
7: 15 ms 66.109.6.78 (ae-4-0.cr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com)
8: 15 ms 107.14.19.153
9: 31 ms 4.30.135.153 (xe-11-0-2.edge2.Newark1.Level3.net)
10: 31 ms 4.69.156.30 (ae-31-51.ebr1.Newark1.Level3.net)
11: 15 ms 4.69.132.97 (ae-2-2.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net)
12: 15 ms 4.69.134.66 (ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net)
13: 15 ms 4.69.155.6 (ae-14-60.car4.NewYork1.Level3.net)
14: 16 ms 4.53.94.218 (SPLICE-COMM.car4.NewYork1.Level3.net)
15: 15 ms 67.215.65.132 (hit-nxdomain.opendns.com)
The target host "67.215.65.132" have been reached.
Query finished.
1: 0 ms 192.168.1.1
2: 405 ms 68.174.228.1 (cpe-68-174-228-1.si.res.rr.com)
3: 0 ms 24.164.129.218 (24-164-129-218.si.rr.com)
4: 15 ms 24.164.128.34 (tenge-0-4-0-4-nycmny1-rtr02.si.rr.com)
5: 31 ms 184.152.112.147 (bun119.nycmnytg-rtr001.nyc.rr.com)
6: 15 ms 24.29.148.250 (bun6-nycmnytg-rtr002.nyc.rr.com)
7: 16 ms 107.14.19.24
8: 15 ms 66.109.6.161 (ae-1-0.pr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com)
9: 15 ms 216.55.0.65
10: 98 ms 216.156.0.21 (vb1011.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net)
11: 77 ms 207.88.12.9 (te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net)
12: 94 ms 207.88.12.2 (te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net)
13: 78 ms 216.156.0.126 (ae0d0.mcr2.sandiego-ca.us.xo.net)
14: 358 ms 216.55.27.26
15: 94 ms 69.43.169.112 (ge5-2-6509-a.castleaccess.com)
16: 109 ms 69.43.129.188
17: 93 ms 69.43.161.162
The target host "69.43.161.162" have been reached.
Query finished.
I think they are probably working on those nodes. |
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 JabbuPremium
join:2002-03-06 | reply to bluepoint
What are you seeing? Constant lag or spikes? |
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
join:2009-01-28
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kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
Read this:
»www.nessoft.com/kb/article/packe···-24.html
or this:
»www.nessoft.com/kb/2 |
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Gaming is lagging. My son always got shot easily.  |
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
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kudos:8 | said by bluepoint:Gaming is lagging. My son always got shot easily.
What game and server is he connected to? How? PC, console? |
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| It's a PS3 and I have to ask my son which server. I would think the server is here in NYC. My last post, the first trace, is to ps3.sony.com. |
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
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kudos:8 | said by bluepoint: I would think the server is here in NYC. My last post, the first trace, is to ps3.sony.com.
ps3.sony.com could be totally unrelated to the server your son uses. It's like having some one trace to www.twcable.com when your own IP has issues.
Traces to the actual IP your son uses would be MUCH more helpful.
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| Okay then I have to wait, he won't be here until later. |
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JabbuPremium
join:2002-03-06 | reply to bluepoint
I'm sure there are a lot of issues in NYC area with servers and routers. |
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
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said by bluepoint: My last post, the first trace, is to ps3.sony.com.
No... 67.215.65.132 it's actually the non-existent domain reply server from OpenDNS.
ps3.sony.com doesn't exist. |
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| said by DrDrew:said by bluepoint: My last post, the first trace, is to ps3.sony.com.
No... 67.215.65.132 it's actually the non-existent domain reply server from OpenDNS. ps3.sony.com doesn't exist. PS3.sony.com does exist.
Host Information for "ps3.sony.com":
IP address: 67.215.65.132
Host name: ps3.sony.com
Domain name: sony.com
Top level: COM (Commercial)
Domain Query
Domain query for "sony.com" at "whois.internic.net":
Whois Server Version 2.0
Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Server Name: SONY.COM.MORE.INFO.AT.WWW.BEYONDWHOIS.COM
IP Address: 203.36.226.2
Registrar: INSTRA CORPORATION PTY, LTD.
Whois Server: whois.instra.net
Referral URL: http://www.instra.com
Domain Name: SONY.COM
Registrar: CSC CORPORATE DOMAINS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.corporatedomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.cscglobal.com
Name Server: PDNS1.CSCDNS.NET
Name Server: PDNS2.CSCDNS.NET
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 02-jul-2012
Creation Date: 07-jul-1989
Expiration Date: 06-jul-2014
>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:43:50 UTC <<<
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The response of "whois.internic.net" points to the Whois server "whois.corporatedomains.com".
Network Query
Network query for "67.215.65.132" at "whois.iana.org":
% IANA WHOIS server
% for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org
% This query returned 1 object
refer: whois.arin.net
inetnum: 67.0.0.0 - 67.255.255.255
organisation: ARIN
status: ALLOCATED
whois: whois.arin.net
changed: 2001-05
source: IANA
The response of "whois.iana.org" points to the Whois server "whois.arin.net".
Query finished.
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That's what I'm thinking that's why I'm waiting a bit for the smokes to clear. If you see my last trace, its back responding in the hundreds now, a little better. |
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 hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
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kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
I am trying to remember how many times I have seen this discussion.
This made me smile
"All you're saying are guesses, I want a factual answer and I posted to get an answer and not to argue. I want to know why the gateway used to ping 30ms and now answering @2000ms or not at all."
Who do you think is going to give you a factual answer here?
Hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
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| said by hobgoblin:Who do you think is going to give you a factual answer here?
Hob
People who have an idea, probably not you.  |
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hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
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kudos:8 | "People who have an idea, probably not you."
Thanks for that, You probably have one of the most knowledgeable person I know posting in the thread but you appear to be looking for an answer that satisfies you rather than listening to facts.
Oh well. Maybe one of the New York City Network engineers will wander in and fill you in on all the facts. Don't hold your breath.
Hob
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
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1 edit | reply to bluepoint
You don't even understand what you're looking at. Check the IP and traces for dsjflsdjfllsdjlsdjfljsdfljsdf.com and compare them to ps3.sony.com
What you are seeing is the result of OpenDNS non-existent domain redirects. Use another, non-redirecting, DNS server or disable OpenDNS "Domain Typos>Enable typo correction" and try those traces and whois again.
You will find ps3.sony.com doesn't exist.
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| You were correct ps3.sony.com is non existent.
Trying myservices now, the gateway is back to not responding.
Host Information for "myservices.timwewarnercable.com":
IP address: 69.43.161.162
Host name: myservices.timwewarnercable.com
Tracing route to "69.43.161.162" over max. 30 hops:
1: 0 ms 192.168.1.1
2: * Request timed out.
3: 15 ms 24.164.129.218 (24-164-129-218.si.rr.com)
4: 15 ms 24.164.128.34 (tenge-0-4-0-4-nycmny1-rtr02.si.rr.com)
5: 22 ms 184.152.112.147 (bun119.nycmnytg-rtr001.nyc.rr.com)
6: 15 ms 24.29.148.250 (bun6-nycmnytg-rtr002.nyc.rr.com)
7: 15 ms 107.14.19.24
8: 15 ms 66.109.6.161 (ae-1-0.pr0.nyc30.tbone.rr.com)
9: 15 ms 216.55.0.65
10: 93 ms 216.156.0.21 (vb1011.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net)
11: 93 ms 207.88.12.9 (te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net)
12: 93 ms 207.88.12.2 (te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net)
13: 94 ms 216.156.0.126 (ae0d0.mcr2.sandiego-ca.us.xo.net)
14: 93 ms 216.55.27.26
15: 286 ms 69.43.169.112 (ge5-2-6509-a.castleaccess.com)
16: 93 ms 69.43.129.188
17: 78 ms 69.43.161.162
The target host "69.43.161.162" have been reached.
Query finished.
BTW, I ask my son about the server name were his PS3 connects when he plays, he doesn't know. He said it just connects. :huh: |
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That's what I'm trying to point at the router is busy. Why was it pinging 30ms before the storm and 2000ms now? What do you think happens? Wouldn't you think gaming will be affected?
What a lot of us are trying to tell you is that ICMP deproritization in routers is common, not specifically indicative of a problem, and that you should focus on a different method of testing. When I had AT&T U-verse, the gateway only responded to me very early in the morning.
For what it's worth, I don't like it either. Without having reliable traces, it's much harder to be able to clearly identify where performance bottlenecks begin.
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DrDrewSo that others may surf.
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kudos:8 | reply to bluepoint
said by bluepoint:You were correct ps3.sony.com is non existent.
Trying myservices now, the gateway is back to not responding.
The gateway not responding doesn't really seem to have any particular effect on your connection from the traces you've posted, a mere pothole on your data highway. The several hops following the gateway all seem to be responding with good times. Even the last hop times are good and never unusual.
For now I'd say ignore your odd gateway IP response and look for some other symptoms that coincide with your son's gaming problems.
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