 EGeezerGo CatsPremium
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kudos:8 | Ohio Secretary of State installs "experimental" voting Under the law, if software is "experimental", it doesn't need certification. So, the SoS simply declares a patch "experimental" and proceeds to load it to a production environment.
When I was doing systems work, if we shoved "experimental" patches into production systems without verifying its performance and security we would have been fired.
FreePress claimed it obtained a copy of the contract for the software from a source at (Secretary of State) Husted's office. The contract calls for the tabulation machine's vendor to "enter custom codes and interfaces to the standard election reporting software," the publication claimed.
See;
»www.computerworld.com/s/article/···machines
This should get interesting...
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| Re: Ohio Secretary of State installs "experimental" vo said by EGeezer:When I was doing systems work, if we shoved "experimental" patches into production systems without verifying its performance and security we would have been fired.
Me too. Wtf? |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium
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kudos:2 | reply to EGeezer
Well I'm sure a bunch of lawyers, in Ohio, will make a fortune. And we maybe wondering who won OH until Dec 12th.
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 BlackbirdBuilt for SpeedPremium
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kudos:3 | reply to EGeezer
Perhaps Ohio's also readying a new state slogan: "Welcome to Ohio... it's the new Florida!" |
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kudos:2 | Please no. I don't want to hear about Chad and whether he's hanging or has dimples.
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Mele20Premium
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Hilo, HI
kudos:4 | reply to EGeezer
Ohio uses electronic voting machines? Gee, we went back to paper ballot and a black ink pen this year.  I voted a week ago in person (best thing Hawaii has done is heavily promote early voting).
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StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium
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kudos:2 | Hmm, and HI isn't even in play. I wonder why they went back to paper.
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StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium
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kudos:2 | reply to EGeezer
BTW does anyone know what kind of platform (PC/custom etc) these machines use?
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Mele20Premium
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Hilo, HI
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Oh, we are VERY MUCH in the picture! The results of our US Senate race may decide the future of the USA as this race could decide which party is in control of the US Senate. It is a once in a generation race. It has been extremely nasty with BIG Mainland interests invading our state with a lot of lies and VICIOUS campaigning. The US Chamber of Commerce is one of the greatest offenders. (I am sick of the nasty ads that constantly on TV. In all the years I have lived in Hawaii (40 years), I have never seen this level of viciousness in campaigning).
I don't know if the entire state is using paper. The Hawaii County Clerk who handles elections on the Big Island has been involved in an ongoing elections scandal and the State of Hawaii took over the handling of the general election voting and absentee voting (bad name as anyone can vote early not just those absent on elections day) on this island because of the scandal.
To add insult to injury, our ballots were messed up and it was too late to print more for early voting when the error was discovered and I think even elections day voting will not have correct ballots. By law, the candidates for each race are supposed to be listed ALPHABETICALLY. Instead Romney is listed FIRST and Obama is at the very bottom of the list.
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kudos:2 | reply to EGeezer
That's fun. Are those folks going to offer flights on experimental planes too. They may not need any certification as well... Or may be they're going to make experiments on general public only and themselves will use private and well certified jets?
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County
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They are lawyers and don't need to listen to anyone in IT... When I was working for the Montgomery County Clerk of Courts the downtown offices got a new, young IT admin. Their #1 complaint about their software was that patches broke things and made the system unstable.
The new young admin asked - who tests the patches.... the response was - "...test the patches?!?!?!?!? We just install them."
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EGeezerGo CatsPremium
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Midwest
kudos:8 | reply to OZO
said by OZO:That's fun. Are those folks going to offer flights on experimental planes too.
Good point - Experimental Aircraft are subject to FAA inspection at various stages of construction before being issued an airworthiness certificate. ( see »www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/ai···eriment/ )
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harald
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Columbus, OH
kudos:1 | reply to EGeezer
Allegedly - and I don't trust that word nor do I trust the Ohio Secretary of State, the patches only affect the output of summary data.
I will be working at a voting location (in Ohio) tomorrow as of 0530. Probably get home after 2030. One hell of a hard way to earn $150. Actually it is mostly very boring, although we may be busy this election. |
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i saw this at the "democracy now" website:
"Ohio Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted, meanwhile, has issued a new last-minute directive that would disqualify ballots not accompanied by a form accurately documenting the type of identification used" |
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EGeezerGo CatsPremium
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kudos:8 | said by redwolfe_98:"Ohio Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted, meanwhile, has issued a new last-minute directive that would disqualify ballots not accompanied by a form accurately documenting the type of identification used"
This apparently applies to provisional ballots.
said by Dayton Daily News :Advocates are saying on Saturday that the order by Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted late Friday wrongly puts the burden of recording the form of ID used on a provisional ballot on voters, not pollworkers. ...
»www.daytondailynews.com/news/new···n/nSwYq/
Also see »www.sfgate.com/news/article/Laws···9994.php
said by SFGate article :... The order requires voters to check a box explaining what ID they can offer if they weren't able to provide the last four digits of their Social Security numbers or their Ohio driver's license numbers. Alternative ID could include a military ID or a utility bill. ...
Personally, I'd like to see a standard ballot format across the entire nation along with open source voting software.
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kudos:7 | How should you prove you are a resident if you can't give them the last four of your SSN, DL number (not the license, but the number), or utility bill?
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kudos:1 | reply to Blackbird
Ohio and Florida have been vying for that spot for months now.
I think with this though, Ohio just gained an unassailable lead.
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said by Krisnatharok:How should you prove you are a resident if you can't give them the last four of your SSN, DL number (not the license, but the number), or utility bill?
Well, you just use one of your grocery store loyalty cards!
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | said by Blackbird:said by Krisnatharok:How should you prove you are a resident if you can't give them the last four of your SSN, DL number (not the license, but the number), or utility bill?
Well, you just use one of your grocery store loyalty cards! Sweet, I didn't know I could use that as proof of identity. Guess I can travel to other countries on one too.
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said by sivran:Ohio and Florida have been vying for that spot for months now.
I think with this though, Ohio just gained an unassailable lead.
The real contest will come tonight and tomorrow, once the polls close and we see how many contested ballots there are in both states. Ohio may have the lead currently, but one should never count Florida out in this sort of thing... they have a well-established record of finding creative ways to truly hang up an election.
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