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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to 88615298

Re: Verizon thought...

said by 88615298:

said by rradina:

Really? I've purchased two i-Devices and I don't recall ANY bloatware being installed. Are you suggesting carriers just lose more money with the i-Products?

yes they do. In fact most of Sprint current financial problems stem from the iPhone.

Yes, not having the iPhone. The unlocked iPhone (which is free of subsidies) is roughly the same price as an unlocked high end Android device.

If the iPhone were such a bad deal for carriers, they would not carry it...


88615298
Premium
join:2004-07-28
West Tenness

said by itguy05:

said by 88615298:

said by rradina:

Really? I've purchased two i-Devices and I don't recall ANY bloatware being installed. Are you suggesting carriers just lose more money with the i-Products?

yes they do. In fact most of Sprint current financial problems stem from the iPhone.

Yes, not having the iPhone. The unlocked iPhone (which is free of subsidies) is roughly the same price as an unlocked high end Android device.

If the iPhone were such a bad deal for carriers, they would not carry it...

Actually it is bad for carriers. They carry it because so many Apple cult members insist on an iphone.

U.S. carrier market could be on the hook for more than $10 billion
»gigaom.com/apple/analyst-iphone-···bsidies/

iPhone kills carrier profits
»betanews.com/2012/06/07/iphone-k···profits/

Cell phone carriers will get whacked by the iPhone 5
»money.cnn.com/2012/09/12/technol···dex.html

Are iPhone subsidies destroying carriers?
»www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/are···arriers/

openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2
reply to itguy05

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Unlocked iPhone from Apple
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Unlocked Nexus from Google
The carriers pay a large chunk of change to offer the iPhone, and then discount the cost to consumers. The win with the iPhone (and other devices) is locking customers in long term contracts. I suspect the margins on offering iPhones are thinner for the carriers than with Android devices.

And no, the unlocked iPhone is not roughly equivalent in price to an unlocked Android device.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to 88615298

I've had two iPhones and I certainly don't fit that description. Neither do millions of other users. The iPhone is a great device, as are Android and lately, Windows phones. Regardless, the iPhone is still considered the Cadillac of smart phones because it invented the market. Carriers want it because a lot of ordinary folks ask for it.

If the carrier is willing to sell it for a third of its cost and hope to turn a profit over the life of a two year contract, that sounds like a plan. If it isn't working, we cannot say that they went into the i-Deal with their eyes shut.



Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT
reply to openbox9

said by openbox9:

And no, the unlocked iPhone is not roughly equivalent in price to an unlocked Android device.

I think it'd be better to compare an iPhone 5 to a Samsung Galaxy SIII or Note 2. Although the Nexus4's specs are rather impressive for the price.

openbox9
Premium
join:2004-01-26
Germany
kudos:2

Why? Anyway, buying an unlocked iPhone 5 in Canada (when it becomes available) will cost 700+ USD with today's exchange rate. A factory unlocked Galaxy S3 via Amazon looks to come in around $550ish.



Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

iPhones will always be overpriced and underspec'd. I've seen several phones that could kick the crap out of the iPhone, even before said iPhone was released.

I guess iFans don't really care about specs. They care more about the User Interface, which honestly could be dumbed down to run on anything.. even an original iPhone (if they didn't drop support for it to make you buy a new one).