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Mr Matt

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Re: Abuse of power for government to spy on citizens.

And then there were the Loyalty Oaths that citizens were required to sign during various times for various reasons since the United States of America was founded. Most recently was during the McCarthy Era's Red Scare. More about Loyalty Oaths in Wikipedia here:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty_oath


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The trouble with demonizing McCarthy is that it ignores the very real internal threat that communism presented. The fall of the Soviet Union led to the release of Soviet files (VENONA intercept) that PROVED the Soviet NKVD had 221 agents within the Roosevelt administration, and there where likely many others from the KGB. McCarthy wasn't a paranoid nut - he was right. I want to protect the Constitution, but I wonder how many jihadists (whether actual Islamic or simply leftists) or are lurking within the Obama administration. Some of them seem to be overt in their hatred of the US. Eric Holder, for example, comes to mind. The question is, how do we get the government to protect us from the government - an entity that is not uniform in its goals.



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said by Ahem :

The trouble with demonizing McCarthy is that it ignores the very real internal threat that communism presented.

But even a broken clock (dial face) is right twice a day; just try to figure out when. "Tail-Gunner Joe" McCarthy flailed away at the U.S. Army (particularly the Signal Corps), but could not substantiate his allegations of subversion. He accused Gen. George C. Marshal of incompetence for "losing China to the Communists". VENONA only shows 9, of 159 accused by McCarthy, were likely subversive agents. Not a promising record.
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