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norbert26
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join:2010-08-10
Warwick, RI
reply to bemis

Re: Boiler heating pipes and extended power outage.

said by bemis:

Not a solution, but something to consider...

A friend of mine has a place in VT, they use it all year, but don't live there... they had a particularly windy/cold storm (we're talking -10*F without windchill) which froze the oil line from his tank to furnace (located in an enclosed crawl space / dirt basement). Result was cracked block in the boiler (ruined), all the heating pipes in the house split (domestic water was all OK because he drains it).

He had to file an insurance claim and converted the place to forced air, he's got a lot of boxed in spots for ducts to the second floor, and it certainly wasn't completely covered by the insurance pay out, but at least he sleeps easier now.

its a good thought with this option the ducts could be run under the crawl way and would not be hard to install registers in the floor of each room. This would be good to consider if boiler needs replacing some day but for now the genny seems best and would run a few lights too.


PSWired

join:2006-03-26
Annapolis, MD
Froze the oil line? Why was there water in it?


LazMan
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join:2003-03-26
canada
said by PSWired:

Froze the oil line? Why was there water in it?

Fuel oil and diesel start to gel about about 32F - if there's not enough winter additivies, it basically stops flowing around 16F... That's why there's specific "summer" and "winter" fuel blends.


tschmidt
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Milford, NH
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reply to PSWired
said by PSWired:

Froze the oil line? Why was there water in it?

Good question. Before we built our house we moved a mobile home to the property. The furnace was designed for kerosene. When I had the fuel tank installed I asked: Why kerosene not regular fuel oil.

The answer was simple: "What happens to oil in cold weather?"

/tom

bemis

join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA
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reply to LazMan
said by LazMan:

said by PSWired:

Froze the oil line? Why was there water in it?

Fuel oil and diesel start to gel about about 32F - if there's not enough winter additivies, it basically stops flowing around 16F... That's why there's specific "summer" and "winter" fuel blends.

LazMan has it--it didn't freeze, poor choice of words, it "congealed".


PSWired

join:2006-03-26
Annapolis, MD
Gotcha. We have a bunch of above-ground outdoor heating oil tanks around here in MD, I guess it just doesn't get cold enough here for them to gel up. Outdoor diesel tanks for standby generators are popular too.

bemis

join:2008-07-18
Reading, MA
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A friend of mine here in MA has an outdoor tank--it looks like a stainless steel port-a-potty--and he mentioned it has some sort of a heating element that kicks in at temps below 40*F (said because he was complaining about the costs to convert from his 1950's below ground tank, "and to top it off I needed an electrician to add a circuit for the heating element")


LazMan
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join:2003-03-26
canada
reply to PSWired
said by PSWired:

Gotcha. We have a bunch of above-ground outdoor heating oil tanks around here in MD, I guess it just doesn't get cold enough here for them to gel up. Outdoor diesel tanks for standby generators are popular too.

With proper additives and blending, diesel and fuel oil can be flowable to about -40... But it's all about the right mix.

Winter and Arctic diesel remain flowable at very low temperatures, but can be too thin for normal operation at higher temps... Summer fuels get too thick at lower temps.

I've got about a half-million litres of diesel and fuel oil stored at various sites; mostly in above-ground tanks - it's a bit of a dance to keep the blends right for the time of year.