bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 | Rogers "Ultimate Fibre" internet Looks like they slipped this one into the webpage update for the upload speed changes.
250 Mbps symmetrical, 500GB data cap. No price listed, just an availability checker. |
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 c2rothPremium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2 | Re: Rogers "Ultimate Fibre" internet Wow just noticed this new top tier when I visited the page today to see if I can confirm optional upload speeds increases on the Express, Extreme, and Extreme Plus tiers of 3/5/7 respectively. |
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Very limited beta testing at the centre of the universe...
»digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.···=1455500 |
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We are currently conducting a Fibre-To-The-Home first market roll out in two neighbourhoods in Toronto and Moncton to test internet speeds of up to 250Mbps (download)/250Mbps (upload). |
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dnglbrPremium
join:2002-03-23
North York, ON | reply to bt
Fantastic news. I was just about to switch to Bell next month for their FTTH offering, but would much rather stay with Rogers for something like this. |
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yyzlhr
join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
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| said by dnglbr:Fantastic news. I was just about to switch to Bell next month for their FTTH offering, but would much rather stay with Rogers for something like this.
Considering that this is simply a Beta test right now in one rather affluent neighbourhood in Toronto, I'd say it's going to be a while before anyone else can enjoy it. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand | Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes. |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | said by elwoodblues:Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes.
You can argue it's not much, but far better than what Bell is offering! |
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JAC70
join:2008-10-20
canada | reply to bt
I'd be surprised to ever see FTTH outside of the highest density neighborhoods. Last I heard, a residential hookup cost in the $3000 range. |
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | said by JAC70:I'd be surprised to ever see FTTH outside of the highest density neighborhoods. Last I heard, a residential hookup cost in the $3000 range.
If Rogers can afford the fibre uplinks for all of their cell towers, they can afford to deploy fibre in urban cores. |
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 Qsig
join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON
1 edit | reply to bt
They might do what Bell is doing and what they did for my neighbourhood, I have 2 fibre runs coming into the house. One from Bell and one from Rogers. The Rogers one just gets converted straight to coax for my cable so maybe it'll change to an ONT after.
Bell is just doing fibre in new buildings and neighbourhoods because why would they continue to do copper. No medium change from the remotes now.
Existing structures and buildings....yeah...fibre there will be interesting unless it is more aerial deployed.
I also wonder what the price will be. |
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3 edits | said by Qsig:Existing structures and buildings....yeah...fibre there will be interesting unless it is more aerial deployed. This is all I care about. There are millions of old buildings in the country, it's ridiculous that only "new" buildings get it. China, Japan, South Korea, Netherlands, Italy, Germany, Finland, Norway, Sweden, USA have all learned how to install fiber in old high rises and houses, Canada hasn't. In a lot of cases Bell/Rogers already has FTTB in the basement of high rises for remote DSLAMs and dedicated nodes, they just need work done in the the stairwells/hallways up to the customer, but they haven't documented a single rewiring project like this so far in 3 or 4 years since FTTH launched in Atlantic Canada. In Atlantic Canada Aliant installed wiring up the exterior wall of low rise building (4-5 floors) and drilled in. It was totally ugly and sloppy work, there's no way in hell that cost $3000 per address. |
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Qsig
join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON | Unless they have clear channels to floors and then to the units, going to be hard for some of these buildings. I wonder if our ISPs ever went across to other countries to see how they ran fibre in the older buildings. |
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | Verizon did it quite a bit but then they also sometimes cut corners. Sometimes you just can't take a straight path especially if the techs are getting paid very little.  |
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do you think this will start a pissing contest between the two? being that ffth just requires a few keystrokes to increase speed  |
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said by elwoodblues:Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes.
Tell me exactly 500Gb of what you would download in 5 minutes? If you download 500Gb of movies, you still have to watch them... |
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 mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM
join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON | said by MichelR:Tell me exactly 500Gb of what you would download in 5 minutes? If you download 500Gb of movies, you still have to watch them... Many families today have multiple devices connecting from their homes to the Internet via wifi. Devices like iPhones, iPads, Tablets, etc.
Bandwidth utilization can add up pretty fast with many active devices all doing their thing.
5 minutes is a straw-man
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said by elwoodblues :
Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes.
I've never understood this logic.
Let us assume a test file, a video clip 500MB in size. You will consume the exact same amount of bandwidth downloading that 500MB video file at 31.25 MBps (250 Mbps) as you would downloading it at say 5.6 MBps (45 Mbp) only you will do so, much faster.
The same goes with web-surfing. One can assume your YouTube viewing habits will remain the same. The only difference being, you will load those YouTube video's a lot faster, but it certainly does not mean you somehow consume more bandwidth.
Let me put it in these terms. Take a cereal bowl and a drinking straw. Then take exactly 1 cup of water. Using a funnel, poor the water down the straw into the bowl and time how long it takes to get all the water into the bowl. Repeat the same experiment but instead of using a drinking straw, use say a toilet paper roll. Time how long it takes to get the water into the bowl. The exact same 1 cup of water is getting from point A to point B, only using the toilet paper roll will allow more water to flow through thus reducing the time it takes.
Now, unless I have been mislead in my understanding of how bandwidth works, I don't see where the extra bandwidth consumption would come from. The only way more bandwidth would be consumed, is if you spent more time downloading and surfing the internet. In which case, why do you believe your habits would change because of faster internet? |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | reply to bt
said by bt:500GB data cap. Pathetic for what it'll cost. |
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 TheFerretThe Chesse Stands AlonePremium
join:2003-12-24
Toronto, ON | reply to Orthak
Lets say you want to see something that is 500MB and takes 12 hours to download, you would download it over those 12 hrs and not do much with your connection. Now, lets say it takes 2 hrs to download the same thing, which means after those 2 hours, you would watch that thing and then want to watch something else. This means that you would use a lot more bandwidth with a faster connection than a slower one. Overall, it's the same bandwidth but you can do so much more over the same period of time comparing fast bandwidth to slow. This is how much more bandwidth gets used when you have faster internet.
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