bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
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Re: Rogers "Ultimate Fibre" internet said by TheFerret:Lets say you want to see something that is 500MB and takes 12 hours to download, you would download it over those 12 hrs and not do much with your connection. Now, lets say it takes 2 hrs to download the same thing, which means after those 2 hours, you would watch that thing and then want to watch something else. This means that you would use a lot more bandwidth with a faster connection than a slower one. Overall, it's the same bandwidth but you can do so much more over the same period of time comparing fast bandwidth to slow. This is how much more bandwidth gets used when you have faster internet.
Except that has drastically diminishing returns over a certain speed, where consuming the content starts to take longer than downloading it does.
Under ideal conditions, the slowest connection Rogers offers will download a TV show (in HD) in under half the time it takes to watch it. Under ideal conditions, the 2nd slowest connection they've got will download a full Blu-ray rip in less time than it takes to watch.
We're well past that point for small households, as far as downstream goes.
Multi-user households (that don't share the same taste in media content) might not be there yet, but there's still a point where the connection becomes fast enough that the time it takes to consume what they download is longer than the time it takes to download it. |
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I'm on Rogers Ultimate and getting download speeds of 275Mbps and 10Mbps uploads (I don't upload much so the 10Mbps doesn't bother me at all). I have been a Rogers customer since 1992 and getting s great deal for my internet. I get 80% of the $122.99 price so I only pay for $24.60 for a year without any contract.....loving it 
I do say though with the faster speeds get pretty closes at my max 250Gb limits. |
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| You can't get the 80% off deal unless you also have cable TV, and you have to pay for cable TV at the full rate, so it depends on a persons situation. As an internet only customer Bell is cheaper and has the better upload speeds on lower tiers. |
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how much will the new package cost? |
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yyzlhr
join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:1 | said by eeeaddict:how much will the new package cost?
This is a beta product right now, so only beta testers will know. It's free for the first year if you live in the beta testing area. They should see the monthly service fee charged and credited on their bill for the first year. CSRs will have no clue on pricing either as the product codes are not visible to them and the product is supported by an entirely separate department at this time. |
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 MJB
join:2012-01-29 | reply to bt
rogers - 250 mbit plan - both directions. 500 gb cap
me - i'll pass
rogers - why
me - ur scum since your internet is unaffordable to the canadian consumer
rogers - ok
me - bye rogers. never have been your customer |
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said by Orthak: said by elwoodblues :
Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes.
I've never understood this logic. The only way more bandwidth would be consumed, is if you spent more time downloading and surfing the internet. In which case, why do you believe your habits would change because of faster internet? I posted the comment on the front page article as well.
If you sprang a leak, left to seed popular torrent, hacked/opened router, video game patcher left to seed to others, ect ect.
250 MBps can do some serious damage in a capped environment.
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st7860
join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA | reply to bt
downtown vancouver has had residential 300mbps down/15mbps up, with a 1000gb cap $103/mo, for quite some time already, although not from rogers/shaw/telus. |
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You make a solid point, but as someone who went from 36/1 to 75/2 for the increased cap that we are still getting very close and going over frequently despite the difference in cap (150GB -> 250GB).
On the old plan we would always be in the same range as we are now. Getting very close if not going over. |
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said by Orthak: said by elwoodblues :
Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes.
I've never understood this logic. So tell me this do you still use the same bandwidth you used in dial up days? This should be pretty obvious that the higher the speed the more the usage. Eg someone who watches YouTube videos in 360 might switch to 1080 when there is no buffer wait. That's just one out of countless ways your behavior changes when you have better speed. Others might get TV through Internet with better speeds. Like I said, our usage has come a long way from dial up days. |
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effram
join:2012-11-01
Orangeville, ON | said by Haris567 :said by Orthak: said by elwoodblues :
Not to mention a cap that you can burn through in about 5 minutes.
I've never understood this logic. So tell me this do you still use the same bandwidth you used in dial up days? This should be pretty obvious that the higher the speed the more the usage. Eg someone who watches YouTube videos in 360 might switch to 1080 when there is no buffer wait. That's just one out of countless ways your behavior changes when you have better speed. Others might get TV through Internet with better speeds. Like I said, our usage has come a long way from dial up days. Exactly. Faster speeds mean you can do more data-intensive things in a shorter amount of time. This means you could be on the internet the same amount of time as you've always been but have used way more data than you would have before. It's not hard to understand but sadly many people aren't getting the correlation.
The incumbents get it, that is the very reason they are all too happy to increase speeds. It makes them look like they want to make your internet experience more pleasant and at the same time charge you for overages when you inevitably exceed their silly ever-shrinking caps. |
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yyzlhr
join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:1 | Let's not lose sight of the fact that the only people who are going to sign up for the 250/250 tier are going to be people who actually understand how usage works and will know exactly what they're getting themselves into. |
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| except that its free so in this case that may not be true |
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or afford it... |
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yyzlhr
join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:1 | reply to eeeaddict
said by eeeaddict:except that its free so in this case that may not be true
Regular consumers who aren't tech savvy will shop for their internet service by calling Rogers or visiting a retail outlet. You cannot sign up for 250/250 through any of those channels. You need to qualify yourself online and then someone from a special team contacts you to set everything up. The people who will sign up for this probably have heard of it through this website or another tech oriented website and are aware of what a GB is.
Also in the Toronto area, it is only deployed in a highly affluent area. Those with higher incomes usually won't just jump on something because it's free for the first year. They're often more interested in the long term costs. |
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I'm guessing $250? |
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 Qsig
join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON | reply to bt
It's up on the Rogers packages page now:
»www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal···ts=hide#
226 per month with 500 GB cap. |
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Are talking about "real" FTTH or RFoG (Rf over Glass)?
cheers |
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Qsig
join:2009-05-18
Kanata, ON | said by tj_blues:Are talking about "real" FTTH or RFoG (Rf over Glass)?
cheers
In my neighbourhood it's RFoG right now which I was disappointed with but doing 250 synchronous would most likely mean FTTH. |
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if that wasn't the crippled 500gb service they like to have this could be sort of a good deal (less than $1 a megabit) |
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