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BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to osravens

Re: Unlimited is not sustainable

said by osravens:

So that's why T-Mobile just switched to unlimited 4G data?

T-mobile has ZERO 4G.

T-mobile has a MUCH smaller marketshare than at&T Verizon.

T-mobile will find out quickly how unsustainable unlimited it.

T-mobile customers will find to how having everyone using unimited bogs down the network.

I think $50 for 1GB is less sustainable for data than unlimited. You can get away with that in a market with shiny show toys, not a maturing one with saturation.

There isn't a $50 charge for 1GB of data.

Until you can actually accept some FACTS there is no point trying to discuss anything with you.

WernerSchutz

join:2009-08-04
Sugar Land, TX

said by BF69:

said by osravens:

So that's why T-Mobile just switched to unlimited 4G data?

T-mobile has ZERO 4G.

T-mobile has a MUCH smaller marketshare than at&T Verizon.

T-mobile will find out quickly how unsustainable unlimited it.

T-mobile customers will find to how having everyone using unimited bogs down the network.

I think $50 for 1GB is less sustainable for data than unlimited. You can get away with that in a market with shiny show toys, not a maturing one with saturation.

There isn't a $50 charge for 1GB of data.

Until you can actually accept some FACTS there is no point trying to discuss anything with you.

I am on the unlimited TMo 4G. Kicks ass, downloaded about 15 GB with ZERO issues and no complaints from TMo. Who should I believe, my lying eyes or someone off the Internet ?

osravens

join:2011-01-26
Cumberland, MD

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reply to BF69
Apparently you've never seen the FACTS of a Verizon Share Everything plan. It is indeed $50 for 1GB.

»www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/plan···erything



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to WernerSchutz

said by WernerSchutz:

said by BF69:

said by osravens:

So that's why T-Mobile just switched to unlimited 4G data?

T-mobile has ZERO 4G.

T-mobile has a MUCH smaller marketshare than at&T Verizon.

T-mobile will find out quickly how unsustainable unlimited it.

T-mobile customers will find to how having everyone using unimited bogs down the network.

I think $50 for 1GB is less sustainable for data than unlimited. You can get away with that in a market with shiny show toys, not a maturing one with saturation.

There isn't a $50 charge for 1GB of data.

Until you can actually accept some FACTS there is no point trying to discuss anything with you.

I am on the unlimited TMo 4G. Kicks ass, downloaded about 15 GB with ZERO issues and no complaints from TMo. Who should I believe, my lying eyes or someone off the Internet ?

Come to MY area and use your t-mobile phone and see what kind of speeds you get.


BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to osravens

said by osravens:

Apparently you've never seen the FACTS of a Verizon Share Everything plan. It is indeed $50 for 1GB.

»www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/plan···erything

Actually I HAVE seen it. The $50 includes unlimited minutes and texting. which are in fact a $40 value. Funny you post a link and you FAIL at reading the info. Take a look at the pic I posted. See where the minutes and texting are INCLUDED with the data? Also if you go to your link you will see the data pricing for just a tablet to just a Mi-fi and no calling or texting is $40 cheaper for the same amount of data. Thus minutes/texting is worth $40. So if Unlimited minutes/texting and 1 GB is $50 and minutes/texting is $40 the 1 GB data is actually $10.



ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA
Reviews:
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reply to WernerSchutz
T-Mobile has great potential just very limited coverage. I just switched yesterday and am getting 40ms pings and downloads around 15mbps on HSPA+. If they expanded their footprint they could easily be a competitor. WiFi calling/SMS is a great feature as well.

T-mo isn't for everyone but their faux-G is definitely on-par with Verizon LTE where it exists.


ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA

reply to osravens
I already explained this to him the other day and he couldn't comprehend it. He's sticking to the pro-Verizon pricing scheme.



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by ssavoy:

I already explained this to him the other day and he couldn't comprehend it. He's sticking to the pro-Verizon pricing scheme.

I don't need explaining. actually READING what the plan offers tells you. I can't help it if simple reading and math is beyond your comprehension. 2+2 does NOT equal 5 no matter how badly you want it to be true.

ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA

All I need explained is, if the minutes and texting are truly included with the data, why are smartphones $30 *more* per month than tablets?



BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by ssavoy:

All I need explained is, if the minutes and texting are truly included with the data, why are smartphones $30 *more* per month than tablets?

Ask Verizon but that's the device fee. The "data" part CLEARLY includes minutes and texting. It's in the pic I posted. Also if you go to the website and choose just a tablet or hotspot or usb dongle and choose a data plan that does NOT include minutes or texting the data is $30 cheaper. For example 4 GB data on Share Everything with a phone is $70 and included unlimited minutes and texting with just a tablet with no minutes or texting it's $30. So if the price difference is $40 and the only change is the lack of minutes and texting then MATH and COMMON SENSE tells you that minutes and texting are priced at $40.

patt2k

join:2009-01-16
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
·AT&T Wireless Br..

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

said by osravens:

So that's why T-Mobile just switched to unlimited 4G data?

T-mobile has ZERO 4G.

T-mobile has a MUCH smaller marketshare than at&T Verizon.

T-mobile will find out quickly how unsustainable unlimited it.

T-mobile customers will find to how having everyone using unimited bogs down the network.

I think $50 for 1GB is less sustainable for data than unlimited. You can get away with that in a market with shiny show toys, not a maturing one with saturation.

There isn't a $50 charge for 1GB of data.

Until you can actually accept some FACTS there is no point trying to discuss anything with you.

This guy actually likes metered data... I am with Verizon have 5 phones with 12 gb plan most we used was about 8 but that doesn't change the fact that having unlimited means you can use your smartphone for what it's made to use the freaking internet much more.


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

Come to MY area and use your t-mobile phone and see what kind of speeds you get.

Better yet, come to my area and see if you can even connect.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA

reply to ssavoy
Because they subsidize next to nothing on a tablet, compared to hundreds on a smart phone?



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to ssavoy

said by ssavoy:

T-Mobile has great potential just very limited coverage. I just switched yesterday and am getting 40ms pings and downloads around 15mbps on HSPA+. If they expanded their footprint they could easily be a competitor. WiFi calling/SMS is a great feature as well.

T-mo isn't for everyone but their faux-G is definitely on-par with Verizon LTE where it exists.

Potential, having been around since 94 (Voice Stream), if they haven't figured it out by now, I wouldn't hold your breath.


PaulHikeS2

join:2003-03-06
Manchester, NH

reply to BF69
If the minutes and texting are $40/month and I have to pay $90/month for my smartphone, then my math shows the 1 Gig of data to be $50/month. Or is the $40/month access fee optional?
--
Jay: What the @#$% is the internet???


ssavoy
Premium
join:2007-08-16
Dallas, PA

reply to Crookshanks
Finally a logical answer. Then again, if I bring my own phone it still costs the same. I wish they would start calling it "Phone Financing" rather than just roll it in with the service plan.


Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
Reviews:
·Frontier Communi..

said by ssavoy:

Then again, if I bring my own phone it still costs the same. I wish they would start calling it "Phone Financing" rather than just roll it in with the service plan.

Charging you the same if you bring your own phone does suck. I really can't think of any reason they do it, other than industry inertia. The wireless industry has used the subsidy w/contract model for decades, mostly to shield people from sticker shock.

T-Mobile does offer different plans for BYOD, but they have a different corporate culture than most American carriers. I suspect you'll see the BYOD concept spread over the coming decade, particularly once VoLTE happens and we have a truly nationwide cellular standard.


jeremyvbk19

@suddenlink.net

reply to BF69
Actually the $50 is covering mainly data for the several phones. It is the per phone charge that is a majority of the unlimited talk and text part. Hence when you add a second phone you don'g get more data, you have to get an upgraded tier to do that.


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