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1 edit | Build ideas? Hey guys. I made friends with a fellow I recently met on public transportation. He's a nice person. He has been discussing a new build and wanted my input.
Budget would be 800-1000 bucks.
He does heavy audio recording work, he uses software studio stuff to record and mix music. The software he uses is mostly multithreaded, but I don't know the names.
He wants a build with a 600-750 watt SMPS to support additional hardware growth. I told him that 500 is enough and he knows.
He's interested in SSDs but it isn't on the top of his list.
He is interested in overclocking but worries it could shorten lifespan of hardware.
He will be running Win7 or 8, he hasn't decided which because Win8 is new and he has no exposure to it yet.
He's build his own systems in the past, the most recent is a 1366 based system that he went all out on, he wants to pull back from spending so much this time.
He knows he wants a discreet video controller, I don't think he is confident with the newer on CPU video solutions.
He wants a mainboard with plenty of USB 3.0 and eSATA connectors.
He wants to stick with ASUS as he knows and trusts them.
Originally he wanted a laptop because the system will get moved around SOME. But upon thinking about not being able to build one and the hardware being weaker for the buck, he now wants to build a desktop.
I told him that a 300 dollar processor is the max he should go with, all things considered. Am I correct?
He wants at least an i5.
I showed him the CM Store cases that are refurbished, he liked that quite a bit, but a case with a carry handle would delight him. I have such a case in my backup system, it was a refurb case FROM the CM Store. The CM Ammo case.
I advised him to go with a WD Black or Red drive upon our discussions while riding transit. Upon consideration, he knows he doesn't want a 5400 RPM based drive or one with head parking issues.
He wants at least 2 x 8 GB RAM.
Could some of you suggest a build based on deals? CM Store cases are fine. Newegg, tiger, any good etailer...
I was thinking an 1155 based system, but I'm not sure which chipset.
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kudos:4 | What chipset should we start with, Z77? |
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kudos:4 | reply to signmeuptoo
Gee, the silent treatment. |
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| Awww... don't get that way. 
I'd say start with a Z77, I'm not sure he'd need an i5 for Audio work, but someone else might want to chime in on that one.
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kudos:4 | The system will also serve general purposes... |
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| said by signmeuptoo:The system will also serve general purposes...
Too broad. What kind of general purpose?
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kudos:4 | I don't know. |
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I tried to make one.. but it is over 1000.  |
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kudos:4 | Thanks for trying! Maybe that is the issue. |
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I'd start by asking,
I used to cut/edit audio and rip vinyl on a rescued Dimension 4400, so I'd argue the i5 isn't required if that's all your friend is doing. I'm not saying he shouldn't get an i5 if he wants power, but he's factoring in a huge chunk of his budget for something that might be overkill.
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kudos:4 | Indeed. |
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Ok, I tried.
Missing case, keyboard/mouse, Monitor, speakers, optional video card, and optional a better Heat Sink Fan for the cpu. Oh, forgot about the DVD combo driver, or a blu-ray.
I'm not sure does he want to try looking in to:
»www.cyberpowerpc.com/
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»www.ibuypower.com/ |
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kudos:4 | He seems to enjoy building, but doesn't know as much as many of our regulars here know. He's a super nice person, I enjoy my chats with him, but they are often briefer than I'd like. |
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I'd actually start by asking what his current "all out" 1366 based system can't/doesn't do that a new build will. Does he just have the upgrade/new build itch, or is it something else? There is no wrong answer, just curious. :P
To Fizzy: "Sound Card? I guess we stick with on-board?? Realtek ALC898"
If this guy does "heavy audio recording work" he should have something like a RME Hammerfall DSP 9632 card for audio processing or something similar for audio input/output.
I built a i5-2600K/P67 based machine with a SeaSonic S12II 620, 8GB (4x2) G.Skill X Ripjaws and GTX 560 about a year ago for a buddy with a "serious" home studio (with the aforementioned RME card into a Yamaha MG32/14FX mixer console) about a year ago. So something similar with current parts should do just fine. It also handles video editing just fine too (for editing his bands shows/gigs). |
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RME HDSP 9632 - PCI Digital Audio Card
Price: $479.00
»www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3···PCI.html
Also, you type i5-2600k.. Do you mean i5-2500k? or i7-2600k?
Good news is.. the Ivy Bridge cost just as much as the Sandy Bridge. (Ivy Bridge is newer.)
i5-2500k(Sandy Bridge)=$219.99
i5-3570k(Ivy Bridge)=$219.99
i7-2600k(Sandy Bridge)=$319.99
i7-3770k(Ivy Bridge)=$319.99 |
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Yeah, he paid 500+ for it when it was new, it was transplanted from his old machine though.
Into his 4U rackmount chassis that was mounted in a Anvil rackmount road case.
Oops, yeah meant 2500K, sorry typo demon struck again.
If building a system today, go with Ivy Bridge. I built that system a little over a year ago, Sandy Bridge was the only choice then.
To signmeuptoo: is he using software based "virtual studio" like Reason? »www.propellerheads.se/products/reason/ |
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Tell me more, Crash. Sure, we don't have enough information yet, but I'd like to know more about your doings.
I still need to find out what hardware he will install in it for studio work.
What if we upped his budget to 1200? I should think they could open things up a bit...
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2 edits | That machine I built close to a year ago was about $850 in parts. The $500+ DSP card and 4U rackmount case were transplanted/reused. The rest was new (mobo,cpu,ram,gfx,psu, odd,hdd). His goal was to keep it under $1000 and with the "friend" discount for my time, effort researching and assembly/testing, we made made it just under budget.
I knew what my guy had for a setup, both software and hardware wise. He was also very clear about what he wanted/needed. That made it easier for me, although we went through several prospective "parts lists", all through Newegg. |
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I'd just keep it half way basic to allow for other bits specific to the work preferred for the machine. I went away from an asus board just to have firewire on the motherboard, even though a card would be be best for allowing extra musical hardware plug in points.
Grand Total:* $759.94
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···32116992
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13128545
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19116504
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20231489
2 - in 1 deal
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
»www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal···.1129330
CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
»www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDeal···.1129330
Then look at:
A specific firewire card for the OP's uses/hardware needs.
Whether internal sound hardware is required - not necessarily a standard type sound card, something more specific to work not playback.
Whether a SSD can be added to the package.
Is a case required.
Is an optical Blu-ray player required over a DVD player.
You can always look at swapping other parts but it to me it was either an i7 with no O/C, low budget, or go with an i5 with O/C. I doubt for $1K we need to look at i7 O/C or a high end motherboard - mid-range seems fine - but that comes back to what the OP's direction and funds are. I think it would be better to have a motherboard with at least 1 or 2 ports/headers for firewire as well as the add-on card - more testing options in case there ends up a compatibility issue with added hardware idiosyncrasies down the road.
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