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antdude
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Re: Do you still use Windows?

said by Dustyn:

said by GlassyMcPete:

Is there and OS that is simpler than Windows in what it does and what it installs where and where the user the can easily be in control or what is happening on the machine she owns?

Sure. MS-DOS.

Or any DOS (not just MS'), Linux/UNIX, etc.
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chrisretusn
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said by antdude:

Or any DOS (not just MS'), Linux/UNIX, etc. )

Hmm... Your sentence seems to imply that Linux, Unix is DOS.

It is not.
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AVD
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what is DOS?



RazzyDOS

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reply to chrisretusn

said by chrisretusn:

said by antdude:

Or any DOS (not just MS'), Linux/UNIX, etc. )

Hmm... Your sentence seems to imply that Linux, Unix is DOS.

It is not.

There are a bunch of other DOS, like PC-DOS, DR-DOS, and more.


AVD
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is UNIX a DOS?



goalieskates
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said by AVD:

is UNIX a DOS?

You're reading it wrong. Try "or" instead of "and". Unless that's deliberate.


chrisretusn
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reply to RazzyDOS
I am well aware the are a lot of DOS.

Unix and Linux is not one of them.
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dave
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Sure it is - DOS is just generic for 'disk operating system'. If it runs from rotating rust, and supports a file system, it's a DOS. We said 'DOS' long before MS-DOS.

Though I'll grant you that (as far as I remember), PDP7 Unix was a TOS.

And by that argument, Windows is a DOS, so it's meaingless to say that a DOS is simpler than Windows.



StuartMW
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Paper or magnetic?


dave
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DECtape, gods' own block-structured medium.



chrisretusn
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reply to dave
You can play on words all you like it does not change the fact the acronym DOS "Disk Operating System" refers to operating systems such as IBM-DOC, PC-DOS, MS-DOS and the several other like operation systems.
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StuartMW
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reply to dave

Real masochists load the OS via paper tape using a Teletype ASR-33 at 110 baud
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dave
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I have no use for new-fangled UIs. The Friden Flexowriter was an earlier and better device.

(Better because you could write algol60 that looked like algol60: begin rather than BEGIN, 'begin', .BEGIN, etc.)

Plus if you had a boat that tended to drift, a Flexowriter was heavy enough to make a servicable anchor, unlike the flimsier ASR33.


StuartMW
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quote:
You're gonna need a bigger boat!

Jaws (1975)
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StuartMW
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reply to dave
Of course Real Programmers used binary code and entered their stuff via switches

(Did my share of that)



All this "DOS" stuff is for wimps
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dave
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Yeah, I admit to never having had to memorize the PDP11 absolute loader. The ones I used had the 32-word diode ROM bootstrap. (My officemates: "kids today don't know shit...")

Keys'n'lights for kernel debugging, of course.



StuartMW
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said by dave:

My officemates: "kids today don't know shit..."

Yup. The "Golden Days" of computing are gone. Computers are just another appliance nowadays.

BTW Silicon or Germanium diodes?
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Hank
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Hey, qualify the age for being a "kid", after all it becomes relative after one reaches a certain age. Our community thinks of "kids" being those under 55 years old.


dave
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reply to StuartMW
Good question, and now I am totally bummed out because I can't find my PDP11 peripherals handbook.

I'd guess germanium, they weren't required to do anything fancy except conduct or not.


dave
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reply to Hank
I meant my officemates back then thought that it was the end of civilization because I could not recite the abs loader from my head. (I was twenty-something at the time)


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