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Bob Account deleted join:2012-07-22 New Jersey Reviews: ·Optimum Online	reply to cowboyro Re: Convert from gasoline to tri-fuel said by cowboyro: But I'd be damned if I can understand those people in NY waiting 6hrs in line for $25 worth of gas when they could have found plenty of gas with a 1hr drive. Maybe they didn't have enough gas to drive an hour. said by cowboyro: Worst case scenario you can drive 1-2hrs to an unaffected area, buy a bunch of cans and fill them... I heard that gas cans were sold out as far away as Albany.
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Pher9999 join:2011-07-06 Carmel, NY	Living 60 miles north of the city along the i84 coridor and we have gas shortages here at times. and our Fuel comes out of Newburg. The issue is people who live here and work in the metro area are buying gas to bring down to people there. Some are selling for alot of money. Gas prices here have started to rise.
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alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC kudos:1	reply to Bob said by Bob: I heard that gas cans were sold out as far away as Albany. So the cheap way to live off gasoline for extended outages is: Buy large (or many) gasoline containers and fill them up when there's a chance things will go bad. If things don't go bad, use it up on the cars. 5 Gallon tanks are like 10$ each. Buy 10, you have 50 gallons! That's almost 10 days if you ration. They'd fit easily in a minivan.
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Bob Account deleted join:2012-07-22 New Jersey Reviews: ·Optimum Online	said by alkizmo: said by Bob: I heard that gas cans were sold out as far away as Albany. So the cheap way to live off gasoline for extended outages is: Buy large (or many) gasoline containers and fill them up when there's a chance things will go bad. If things don't go bad, use it up on the cars. That is certainly one strategy. It's at odds with Murphy's Law, however.
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alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC kudos:1	said by Bob: That is certainly one strategy. It's at odds with Murphy's Law, however. 20 x 5 gallon cans! I do admit though, that if my generator shed was close enough to the house, I'd plan on going NG. So I had to sacrifice the convenience of NG to gain the convenience of running a generator in a locked, secured, discrete, weatherproof location. A stolen generator is no generator (Yes people would steal a NG generator).
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cowboyro join:2000-10-11 Shelton, CT Reviews: ·AT&T U-Verse	reply to Bob said by Bob: said by cowboyro: But I'd be damned if I can understand those people in NY waiting 6hrs in line for $25 worth of gas when they could have found plenty of gas with a 1hr drive. Maybe they didn't have enough gas to drive an hour. Get gas, drive 1hr, get more gas... said by Bob: said by cowboyro: Worst case scenario you can drive 1-2hrs to an unaffected area, buy a bunch of cans and fill them... I heard that gas cans were sold out as far away as Albany. They weren't sold out in CT. Gas stations, Home Depot, Lowes had a bunch of them. I am 1hr away from NYC (make it 1:30 with some traffic).
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Bob Account deleted join:2012-07-22 New Jersey Reviews: ·Optimum Online	reply to alkizmo said by alkizmo: said by Bob: That is certainly one strategy. It's at odds with Murphy's Law, however. 20 x 5 gallon cans! That would guarantee the power would stay on.
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alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC kudos:1	said by Bob: That would guarantee the power would stay on. Until you give it/share it all away to those in need, then suddenly a second snow storm appears and then need it Lesson: Hoard gasoline!
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cdru Go Colts Premium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN kudos:7	reply to rjgogo said by rjgogo: I must be way below national average as I just paid about a dollar less than what you are quoting for propane. Taken from the EIA website for Propane prices. That's residential price. Wholesale is $1/gallon. It's probably going to depend a lot on where you're at, how much you are buying, pricing contracts, etc. Even at a dollar less natural gas is still cheaper per equivalent unit of energy.
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fifty nine join:2002-09-25 Sussex, NJ kudos:2	reply to alkizmo said by alkizmo: said by Bob: I heard that gas cans were sold out as far away as Albany. So the cheap way to live off gasoline for extended outages is: Buy large (or many) gasoline containers and fill them up when there's a chance things will go bad. If things don't go bad, use it up on the cars. 5 Gallon tanks are like 10$ each. Buy 10, you have 50 gallons! That's almost 10 days if you ration. They'd fit easily in a minivan. I keep 4 cans. That's enough to last me over a week if I run the generator with limited service. I also keep the generator topped up with stabilized fuel, refilling with fresh fuel every time I do its exercise. I'll probably buy 2-3 more cans. I store the gas in a shed away from the house.
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Red Green Premium join:2003-01-22 Possum Lodge	reply to alkizmo Luckily my gas meter in the basement is close to the wall where I can run the pipe to the outside for the connector, which is near my garage where I store and run my generator, so the cost to have the gas plumbed would not be that much. I would only need about a 30' hose from the outside disconnect to the where I run the generator. The main problem is choosing which kit to use. The Honda is 13 Hp, so I need to find an easy to install kit made for this engine that works well. -- Don't let my reality hinder your imagination!
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alkizmo join:2007-06-25 Pierrefonds, QC kudos:1	Kit 4 from the link (second post, from me!) would do. Just because they say kit C is easier to install than kit 4 doesn't mean it's actually HARD.
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Aranarth join:2011-11-04 Stanwood, MI Reviews: ·Frontier Communi.. ·WildBlue	reply to Red Green You know 50 gallon oil barrels are dead easy to find and store gasoline just fine for you and you can find standard hand pumps for oil/gas that fit into the larger screw cap. Junk yards almost always have them on hand. If you are going to hoard gasoline go that way. If you need larger amount you can also find 250gal tanks with hand pump specific for storing diesel and gas fuels. Since I'm classified as a farm (equine and large animal) I can get gas at a discount. I've forgotten what the exact discount is for farm use since the tanks are filled by my in-laws who also run their own farming operation. If I remember correctly, part of the discount is wholesale price and reduced taxes since we are not driving on the road. The biggest rule is the fuel can only be used for farm operations and equipment and a dye is added to keep you honest. We buy regular gas for our vehicles. We used to have a farm truck which was an old beat up 1/2 ton and that was the only vehicle that could use the fuel. (It never went on the main road and was only driven on dirt road and two tracks.) If you run a hobby farm for profit or larger this is also an option.
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fifty nine join:2002-09-25 Sussex, NJ kudos:2	I had no idea they sold dyed, untaxed gasoline. I thought they only did that with diesel. Around here they sell off road diesel which doesn't have the road tax and it's about 50 cents less than regular on-road diesel. OF course it has the red dye so if you use it in your truck, the cops pull you over and dip your tank... thousands in fines.
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rjgogo join:2003-10-22	reply to cdru said by cdru: said by rjgogo: I must be way below national average as I just paid about a dollar less than what you are quoting for propane. Taken from the EIA website for Propane prices. That's residential price. Wholesale is $1/gallon. It's probably going to depend a lot on where you're at, how much you are buying, pricing contracts, etc. Even at a dollar less natural gas is still cheaper per equivalent unit of energy. I just paid 1.38 delivered to my 500 gallon tank in IL. So that is a residential price. I don't have access to NG.
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Aranarth join:2011-11-04 Stanwood, MI Reviews: ·Frontier Communi.. ·WildBlue	reply to fifty nine said by fifty nine: I had no idea they sold dyed, untaxed gasoline. I thought they only did that with diesel. This might be unique to MI. I could also be confused that it is both when it is only one since I don't pay the bill.
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nunya Who is John Galt? Premium,MVM join:2000-12-23 O Fallon, MO kudos:8	The off-road gasoline form FS is dyed red, just like the diesel.
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itguy05 join:2005-06-17 Carlisle, PA	reply to nunya said by nunya: On to propane. Propane stores well. It doesn't go bad. Even in a power outage, it can still be dispensed (in many cases). There isn't quite the demand of gasoline (every swinging dick with a set of keys is looking for gasoline). From talking with friends in N. Jersey, propane was equally hard to get. Most places that had the exchanges were out quickly as everyone was getting them for their grills and such. Those places that refilled had lines too. Also, I can't remember a time that I filled up a propane tank where they didn't have some sort of electric motor to help the liquid along. Not sure if it would work if that was out. I thnk storing 100-200+ lbs of propane is just as dangerous as 50 gallons of gas. Rotating gas is simple since every car that runs on gasoline can use it.
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Bob Account deleted join:2012-07-22 New Jersey	The propane is a lot more dangerous.
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itguy05 join:2005-06-17 Carlisle, PA	said by Bob: The propane is a lot more dangerous. True. I park almost 40 gallons of gasoline inside daily. 19 gallons in my car and 16 in the wife's.
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