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Teksavvy forbids running servers

Are they still using an old Bell lawyer to write these things?

reply to mlord
This did all get discussed back in 2011,
and at the time TSI Rocky claimed "Server stuff's been fixed."
Apparently not, it seems.

»TekSavvy's new AUP bans servers?

reply to mlord
lol
next thing you know you cannot use a vpn or host a mumble server..
you cannot use a file server? what i cannot setup a ftp? REALLY?

reply to mlord
Really, it's 2012 people. Way beyond the time that ISPs like Teksavvy should be including explicit permission to run servers as part of the AUP, rather than banning them.

I may have to go back to ncf.ca, where running servers has always been a feature: »www.ncf.ca/ncf/registration/dsl/#q23

At least start.ca doesn't explicitly ban them (yet) like Teksavvy does.
»www.start.ca/about/terms

reply to mlord

Nope.. Whatever is there has been there for some time... Not sure when it might have been changed last. Maybe back in Feb?
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reply to mlord
Could that be for "cable" customers? TSI might just be passing along the Rogers/Cogeco AUP for those customers.....or it might have been introduced because of that...

I was thinking the same... I'll have to check... It's all very legal type stuff.. Never know what will get thrown at us anymore these days.
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy

reply to mlord
The title of this thread is misleading. Yes, that is in the acceptable use policy. It is in there in the event that a customer risks the overall health of network and experience of other users. This clause allows us to make sure that negative activity is stopped.

Our customers can and do run personal use servers. Residential Internet service with limited upload is inherently not suited to run a server. For personal use, it generally doesn't result in abuse or exploitation of the network more than "normal" use would. As such, we don't enforce the policy, however, it is there to protect the majority of users against the few bad apples that may seek to abuse the system.

That sounds pretty good. Hehe just checking with legal too though.
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy

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reply to mlord
That would be a major PITA if we can't run home servers for whatever reason. I've been working up to doing just that eventually.

Plz don't let it be so. Its not like we're running data centers.

I'd feel so much better running my own Website/Forums/Blogs or whatever at home on my own equipment instead of in the untrusted cloud. Ofc the plan was to run benign stuff here at home and find a colo for heavier end things like an IRCd for instance on an appropriate host designed for that sort of thing somewhere down the road when I got my home set up completed and operational.

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No intention of doing anything like that.... This has been there for a long time.. Nothing new here.
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy

reply to mlord
no one ever gets kicked off their ISP for running servers... anywhere...

especially because many normal desktop apps run in server mode.

is there are reason for this pedantic thread?

reply to TSI Marc
Legal answer: "Some incumbent AUPs prevent the use of servers. You asked me which ones and I still have to check."

I'll follow up once I find the references in the tariffs...
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy

reply to mlord
How can "a customer risk the overall health of network and experience of other users" with such a miserable upload speed on cable?

almost as if connection speeds were designed that way....

reply to TSI Marc