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Urynome

join:2012-09-04
Beaverton, OR

[Raiding] Old Content Raids

Since in the next patch there is no need for a group to enter a raid. What raids are you going to attempt to solo?


Braincramp

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said by Urynome:

Since in the next patch there is no need for a group to enter a raid. What raids are you going to attempt to solo?

Raid groups are no longer necessary to enter pre-Mists of Pandara raid dungeons.

Copied and pasted form the patch notes. L2Read bro
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Lothario

join:2009-09-30
Ottawa, ON
? He's asking what everyone will be soloing.

Urynome

join:2012-09-04
Beaverton, OR
reply to Braincramp
I know this. I am simply asking what raid you will attempt to solo since there is no need for a raid group to enter the raid?


Braincramp

join:2011-05-16
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reply to Lothario
We are RL friends and co-workers, so I am just giving him crap.


Snakeoil
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reply to Urynome
So I'll be able to solo the lich king?

awesome.....

Solo dark wing, even better...

lol.


mettachain
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who the hell is Darkwing? Duck?

and no you couldn't solo Deathwing


Snakeoil
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Ya, you have something against the duck?

Howard or Darkwing.. either or.


DarkLogix
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reply to Snakeoil
said by Snakeoil:

So I'll be able to solo the lich king?

awesome.....

Solo dark wing, even better...

lol.

Well you could try, good luck.

I'd bet a mage will now be able to solo some BC raids, after all in cata I could solo MC and now I have 350k+ health.

hay wait how much health did MC bosses have? are we now lvl60 raid bosses?


Snakeoil
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quote:
hay wait how much health did MC bosses have? are we now lvl60 raid bosses?

lol.. Raid bosses.. lol.
We could be.
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jofos

join:2008-02-14
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reply to DarkLogix
nah I'm still just trash. Hell I'm not even elite trash.


bTU

join:2009-04-22
Aurora, CO

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reply to Snakeoil
said by Snakeoil:

So I'll be able to solo the lich king?

awesome.....

Solo dark wing, even better...

lol.

Let's get dangerous...

Jodokast

join:2012-05-10
I havnt heard that its going as far as ICC, what i have read and gathered is that its from MC up to Naxx that has converted to being able to go in solo and some of the bosses will drop a pet.

dont know how many ill be able to solo, im pretty sure ill still need help to do naxx even at 90


stonhinge
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There's less "converting" and more "removal of restriction". You just no longer need a raid group to enter. And it's any pre-MoP raid. So you could walk into Firelands solo if you really wanted to.

Since Ragnaros was a 40-man raid boss, he's got 1m HP. 20-man bosses on the other hand....Kurinaxx has 318,400 HP in AQ20, Ossirian has 477,600. So yeah, we've got as much HP as level 60 raid bosses. We'd be tougher to take down, though, from the 27 levels more than a level 60 raid boss.

...

Someone should totally get a 20-man raid full of level 60s and try and defeat a level 90.
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Caelharrad

join:2012-04-13
Fenton, MO
reply to Urynome
Molten Core was easily soloable by any L85 with decent gear back in Cata. If the stat inflation is similar, then I would imagine that a decently geared L90 could solo some of the BC raids. I know I'll be giving all the BC raids a try, plus I might try ICC just for grins, even if I probably won't be able to solo Lich King.


stvnbrs
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MC doesn't require a raid to enter if you are attuned. As for BC raids, most of it was soloable in cata. IIRC, ICC was cleared by a DK in Cata as well. I think the extreme soloing will start to get into parts of Cata raiding this expac.
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Immer
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reply to bTU
once my DK hits 90, I'll be trying some of ICC solo.


DarkLogix
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I think Muzz and tier tried to duo it.

the boat is not soloable.


Immer
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no, it isn't. I'd need to pull in another tank at least for the boat.


DarkLogix
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For the boat I think you need some cannon people.

just have them do the cannons while ya'll deal with the mobs.


Caelharrad

join:2012-04-13
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reply to stvnbrs
said by stvnbrs:

MC doesn't require a raid to enter if you are attuned. As for BC raids, most of it was soloable in cata. IIRC, ICC was cleared by a DK in Cata as well. I think the extreme soloing will start to get into parts of Cata raiding this expac.

I'm aware of the Molten Core attunement... my hunter has solo'ed MC numerous times. I'm also aware that some BC raids could be solo'ed (was not aware of the DK solo'ing ICC)... but note that I said "MC was easily soloable by any L85 with decent gear". I would imagine that with gear/stat inflation, any BC raid could EASILY be solo'ed by most L90 toons. Exceptionally skilled/well geared L90 players could probably tackle WotLK raids or Cata dungeon instances, but success might be dependent on class/spec.


stvnbrs
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The bosses that game me trouble were High King Mulgaur (sp?) in Gruu's lair, and the last boss of Tempest Keep, those were mainly due to the number of stuns that are dropped, I haven't tried lately though. Chess in Kara sucked, mainly because the RNG in it. The MC comment was mainly for others in this forum that may not have been aware that this one raid is already accessible to solo.
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bTU

join:2009-04-22
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reply to Urynome
Might see what LK raids I can do, maybe some of Naxx. For TBC I'll be running KZ for the horseman mount and a few tmog pieces. I started leveling my warlock, so I'm hoping demo with a blueberry can handle some stuff.


Caelharrad

join:2012-04-13
Fenton, MO
reply to Urynome
Hmmm... I wonder if some of the previously "un-soloable" raid encounters (e.g. Razorgore in BWL, although there is supposedly some kind of glitchy way around it), will now become soloable with all the leet DPS we'll be pumping out in our shiny Panda gear? And, I'm definitely taking my DK into ICC once he hits 90... just something about a Death Knight soloing his way through Icecrown seems both fitting and epic.


Skittles
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Soloing old raids is what I did a lot of for last 6 months or so of cata since there wasnt shit else to do.
DPS isnt a factor with Razorgore fight, someone has to control orb to kill eggs and someone has to kill adds....though you are right I have seen a druid youtube video of him glitching this fight.

Another difficult one that Im not sure could be soloed is 1st Boss in Black Temple, if he spears you its a wipe.

Soloable now at 90 (with at least 463 gear) would be:

Vanilla:
MC-any class
BWL -with druid maybe
AQ- was done in last xpac by DKs and Paladin (Twin Emps is the problem in this raid).

BC:

- Karazhan: Soloable (chess is RNG but possible) very easy place to farm.
- Magtheridon's Lair: Soloable
- Gruul's Lair: soloable
- Serpentshrine Cavern: 2 manned this in Cata, sure it would be mostly soloable though last boss is a pain
- The Battle for Mount Hyjal: I soloed all this but last boss in Cata, sure this could be done by 90 now. Archi fight is easy in that reaching Phase 2 is an automatic victory, the only thing the player has to accomplish is to bring Archimonde down to 10% within 9 minutes...easy for a 90.
- Tempest Keep: Soloable
- The Black Temple: soloable past first boss
- Sunwell Plateau: inside/outside fight on first boss, I've 3 manned this back in cata, Im sure most of it is soloable by now.

Wrath of the Lich King 10
- Vault of Archavon: 10 man Unknown (Archavon was soloable at 85, while the other three were not. The whole instance *should* be zergable at 90)
- The Obsidian Sanctum: 10 man 3D Soloable
- Eye of Eternity: 10 man Soloable
- Naxxramas: 10 man Soloable
- Ulduar: 10 unsure on Yog
- Trial of the Crusader: 10 man normal Soloable
- Onyxia's Lair: 10 man Soloable
- Icecrown Citadel: 10 man normal soloable
- Ruby Sanctum: 10 man normal-inside and outside fight-not sure

Cataclysm
I know DKs have done a boss or two in BWD, not sure if much more can be done.

Just my thoughts...


Immer
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how does one solo the last boss in TK?


Skittles
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Well its been done by quite a few since last xpac, youtube can show various classess doing this, here is a warrior:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=9usFHt_d108


thing to remember is he doesnt MC you if you are alone.


DarkLogix
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reply to Immer
said by Immer:

how does one solo the last boss in TK?

3 or fewer and MC doesn't happen.


Immer
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total hax. but I'll take it.


DarkLogix
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said by Immer:

total hax. but I'll take it.

Though in cata I'd recommend using the staff's buff.

last time I did it and killed him was me, a tank, and an off healer.
I grabbed the staff, healer got the mace, and the tank was a bear so no shield for him.

activate the use ability on the staff asap, if the healer is a priest get fear ward on the tank at the right time.

the mace gave a fire damage reduction to healed targets.

then pop hero just before the phase where he would MC and he's dead in no time.

adding a 4th makes it a wipe, as then 3 get MC'ed and kill the 1 and it then resets.

then a Pali or DK could solo it.

a mage needed a healer otherwise gets feared to death.

so I could see 2 manning it easy, a tank that can heal and a dps to burn.

or a dps/healer (spreist might be able to solo it now)