 donoreoPremium join:2002-05-30 North York, ON | Dell Ultrasharp U2412M on sale, $289 I know it is a favourite, I got an email from Dell
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 donoreoPremium join:2002-05-30 North York, ON | said by bitchtorn:Is this the "one to get" in the 24 inch range? I have one, and I think a few others here do as well. The IPS LCD screen is great. |
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 Wolfie00My dog is an elitistPremium join:2005-03-12 kudos:5 | I love mine, and am tempted to get a second one. The only caveat is that if you can wait for Days of Deals and have the patience to check every day, you can probably snag one for about $40 less, judging from recent Deals pricing. Of course, no guarantee that they will necessarily come up again, though lately they have been. |
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 donoreoPremium join:2002-05-30 North York, ON | said by Wolfie00:I love mine, and am tempted to get a second one. The only caveat is that if you can wait for Days of Deals and have the patience to check every day, you can probably snag one for about $40 less, judging from recent Deals pricing. Of course, no guarantee that they will necessarily come up again, though lately they have been. I think it was $269 on the last days of deals. -- The irony of common sense, it is not that common. I cannot deny anything I did not say. A kitten dies every time someone uses "then" and "than" incorrectly. I mock people who give their children odd spelling of names. |
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 | reply to donoreo Ah, it's an IPS. I thought $289 seemed overkill for a 24" display until I clicked on it. 1920 x 1200 which is my preferred resolution for that size. |
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 Dones join:2008-02-14 Toronto, ON | reply to donoreo I do hope this is just a "look at me sale" and not a clearness sale. It seems more and more manufactures are going with the 16:9 ratio because it's cheaper. Especially laptops.
Apple is the only one using 16:10 for most of their laptops. Good for me because they're the only laptops I'll ever buy.
To make things worse, LG comes out with this thing.

For watching movies great! For work, not so much. |
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| reply to urbanriot said by urbanriot:Ah, it's an IPS. I thought $289 seemed overkill for a 24" display until I clicked on it. I paid $485 for my Dell U2410 in early 2010. Both of these have LG panels. The U2410 is a 6 msec H-IPS panel; the U2412M is a 8 msec e-IPS panel.
And here's why the new ones cost less: quote: During 2009 LG.Display began to develop a new generation of e-IPS panels which is a sub-category of H-IPS. They simplifed the subpixel structure in comparison with H-IPS (similar to cPVA vs S-PVA) and increased the transparency of the matrix. In doing so, they have managed to reduce production costs significantly, aiming to compete with the low cost TN Film panels and Samsung's new cPVA generation. Because transparency is increased, they are able to reduce backlight intensity as you need less light to achieve the same luminance now. This helps keep costs down significantly compared with S-IPS.
The main drawback of e-IPS in comparison with S-IPS is that the viewing angles are smaller. When you take a look at an e-IPS matrix from a side, the image will lose its contrast as black turns into gray. On the other hand, there is no tonal shift (as with TN and cPVA matrixes) and the viewing angles, especially vertical ones, are still much larger than with TN. By the way, the contrast drop occurring when the screen is viewed from a side can be compensated by means of special correcting film (A-TW polarizer), but as e-IPS matrices are meant for midrange monitors and this film costs money, most products come without it. Some are actually 6-bit + AFRC modules in fact (as opposed to true 8-bit) which might explain how the costs are kept very low in some cases.
Although it's unknown what the "e" stands for here, it's likely that it means "economic" or similar, since these new panels are all about trying to keep production and retail costs low. With lower retail costs there is of course an added risk of inter panel variance, which may lead to some quality control issues in some models.
»www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/co···tm#e-ips
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 Wolfie00My dog is an elitistPremium join:2005-03-12 kudos:5 | We discussed most of these issues a year or so ago when the U2412M first appeared on Days of Deals. It comes down to the fact that it offers a particularly attractive price/performance for the average user looking for IPS-panel performance in a modern LED-backlit design. The U2410 is mainly a contender where the extended colour gamut is required. A similar tradeoff now exists in the 27" space with the release of the U2713HM alongside the U2711. |
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 GonePremium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3 | reply to Bob An e-IPS panel for all intents and purposes is no different than an MVA/PVA panel when it comes to contrast shifts from a far angle. If I had to chose between the two, I'll take a VA for its superior contrast ratio over an e-IPS. |
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 Wolfie00My dog is an elitistPremium join:2005-03-12 kudos:5 | I also found the comment about keeping costs down significantly by being able to reduce backlight intensity curious because the U2412M is an extraordinarily bright monitor, so much so that I have the brightness at 25% as my standard setting. High transparency or not, they certainly didn't skimp on backlighting. |
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 GonePremium join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON kudos:3 | The fact that the U2412HM is so bright is a testament to the transparency of those panels.
Still, having owned e-IPS and AMVA panels, I'll take the AMVA for image quality any day. |
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:3 | reply to Dones said by Dones: [att=1]
For watching movies great! For work, not so much. This monitor will come with a 4-screen split feature, which will be great for business folks in the finance industry. -- CheckSite.us | YourIP.us | Reverseip.us |
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| said by Rob:This monitor will come with a 4-screen split feature, which will be great for business folks in the finance industry. I would like to read more about that with some examples, what do they call that feature? I checked the link at the topic starter and I didn't see it referenced. |
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:3 | said by urbanriot:said by Rob:This monitor will come with a 4-screen split feature, which will be great for business folks in the finance industry. I would like to read more about that with some examples, what do they call that feature? I checked the link at the topic starter and I didn't see it referenced. Take a look at this link, the picture has an example of the 4-screen split.
»www.gizmag.com/lg-ea93-ultrawide···r/24952/
Edit - I'm referring to the LG 21:9 Monitor not the Dell. -- CheckSite.us | YourIP.us | Reverseip.us |
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 | Still interesting, thanks for the link! I have a definite use for that, I only wish they had a slightly larger model. |
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 HoboJ join:2008-03-27 Carrying Place, ON kudos:1 Reviews:
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| reply to Rob This is just a monitor with a nonstandard aspect ratio and resolution. Just give me a 2560x1600 monitor any day over that and you've got the same thing with more vertical viewing space. |
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| reply to HoboJ said by HoboJ:This is just a monitor with a nonstandard aspect ratio and resolution. 21:9 isn't a "non-standard" aspect ratio - it is theater aspect (which is why you still get black bars watching an unaltered movie on a 16:9 TV) and there have been TVs on the market for the last little bit that are 21:9 already. |
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| Holy crap, I hope that stupidity does not catch on to PC monitors, like 16:9 monitors/laptops did...
But here's a 21:9 ultrabook... LOL
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