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TheTechGuru
join:2004-03-25
TEXAS

TheTechGuru to guppy_fish

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Re: Electric Vehicle Charging Station

said by guppy_fish:

Pretty hard to do when TXU serves only residents in a part of Texas and the poster is from Virgina and Matt is from Florida ...

So TXU is the only electric provider nationwide that has a free nights plan?

Well, come to think of it, Texas has it's own power grid, so offering a plan like this outside of Texas by any power company might not be possible.

I believe it was started here because the power co's were having to idle their generators all night to be ready for the day because shut downs and start ups take too long.

PSWired
join:2006-03-26
Annapolis, MD

PSWired

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Most utilities don't yet have the ability to do time-of-use billing for their residential customers, so this billing scheme won't be widespread until smartmeter deployments see more progress.

And yes, nighttime electricity is cheaper due to the types of plants used to produce it.




Baseload power is power produced by cheap, inflexible generation sources such as coal, nuclear, and hydro. Their fuel sources are inexpensive, but they can't easily adapt to demand. They produce at 100% round-the-clock.

Intermediate load sources can scale their energy output up and down throughout the day according to demand, but use more expensive fuel than baseload plants. Example would be gas-turbine power plants fed with natural gas or landfill gas.

Peaking plants can quickly provide demand response for the highest use scenario. They're the most expensive to operate, with fuel sources such as oil.

So, utilities and RTOs (regional transmission operators, the entities that control regional grid stability) in deregulated markets spend a lot of effort making sure that peak capacity is there for afternoon loads on hot summer days. Conversely, power at night is cheap, to the point that generators are sometimes paid to stop feeding power onto the grid.

Hence the availability of free nighttime energy in markets with the metering infrastructure to support it.

cowspotter
join:2000-09-11
Ashburn, VA

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Circuit was run yesterday. Electrician did a nice job, though of course I have a few drywall patches to repair. I'm going to wait until the charging station is installed to repair the drywall just in case there's a problem with the wiring. $375 for the job.