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RazzyW8

@rr.com
reply to howardfine

Re: [WIN8] Windows 8 - best to pass it up: review Read more: ht

Christmas is only a month away.......

MS only cares about long term market share.


howardfine

join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO
said by RazzyW8 :

MS only cares about long term market share.

And stock holders only care about profits. If MS has another consecutive quarter of declining sales of Windows they won't care what the market share is.


Octavean
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1
reply to Boricua
When you look at Hostess going under, someone could easily come up with reasons why it happened. Some could say people started eating healthier and wouldn’t buy such junk food or something else. The reality is that there may have been a number of different contributing factors but the strike definitely had quite a bit to do with it.

Now in the case of Windows 8, you’ll have a lot of embittered hanger-on’s insisting Windows 8 is or will be a failure because of its new UI design. If Windows 8 fails (and its unclear to me what constitutes a failure since no one has bothered to define it in any real way) one simply cannot discount the decline of the PC industry as a whole with respect to the burgeoning and crowded mobile device market (nontraditional devices like tablets and phones).

So in other words people can write the history in their own minds regardless of what is actually happening or any other contributing factors. They often do so simply because they like to think they have a good understanding of what is going on in the world even if they don’t,….

Microsoft obviously has a vested interest in the PC industry and if it declines how exactly can Microsoft flourish?


howardfine

join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO
Eggzactly!

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17
kudos:2
reply to Octavean
said by Octavean:

Microsoft obviously has a vested interest in the PC industry and if it declines how exactly can Microsoft flourish?

And the best way under these circumstances is to shoot himself into the foot...

Suddenly, when Windows 8 has come to the market, the company has declared, that market doesn't need desktop PC anymore and everyone should use tablets now... Many "thanks" to the marketing department who developed that strategy:

1) First of all, it's not true and market will always need desktop PCs (for businesses, for heavily computing tasks at home, for games, etc)

2) Common sense dictates - you don't want to kill your cash caw intentionally (with ads and pitching death of desktop market here, there and everywhere). But that's exactly what they're doing right now.

3) In all previous versions of Windows OS marketing always pitched about how Windows Explorer looks (the bigger and the more colorful icons you see in WE - the better; the more transparency and aero effects - the better, the bigger dialog boxes - the better, etc). Every new Windows was "better" looking, than its predecessor. What is underneath the OS was not so important as how it' looked. And suddenly, in Windows 8 marketing strategy was turned up side down. No aero, no special transparency effects, and now we should return our focus from how it looks to rather OS itself.

It's funny how marketers think that they can do whatever they want with their customers. They better give a little bit of respect to customers' wishes and needs or they may loose the market share. And it looks like that's what going to happen with pushing Windows 8 on desktops. In other words, they're trying to shoot themselves into the foot...
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Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...


mozerd
Light Will Pierce The Darkness
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join:2004-04-23
Nepean, ON
said by OZO:

Suddenly, when Windows 8 has come to the market, the company has declared, that market doesn't need desktop PC anymore and everyone should use tablets now... Many "thanks" to the marketing department who developed that strategy

A Hospital I do some work for have a large mix of computing devices -- by far tablets make up the majority of computing devices used by doctors and other workers. Still lots of desktops but in this particular Hospital PC usage are in significant decline. The very same applies to many practitioner offices everywhere I visit.
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David Mozer
IT-Expert on Call
Information Technology for Home and Business


RazzyW8

@rr.com
reply to OZO
said by OZO:

said by Octavean:

Microsoft obviously has a vested interest in the PC industry and if it declines how exactly can Microsoft flourish?

And the best way under these circumstances is to shoot himself into the foot...

Suddenly, when Windows 8 has come to the market, the company has declared, that market doesn't need desktop PC anymore and everyone should use tablets now... Many "thanks" to the marketing department who developed that strategy:

1) First of all, it's not true and market will always need desktop PCs (for businesses, for heavily computing tasks at home, for games, etc)

2) Common sense dictates - you don't want to kill your cash caw intentionally (with ads and pitching death of desktop market here, there and everywhere). But that's exactly what they're doing right now.

3) In all previous versions of Windows OS marketing always pitched about how Windows Explorer looks (the bigger and the more colorful icons you see in WE - the better; the more transparency and aero effects - the better, the bigger dialog boxes - the better, etc). Every new Windows was "better" looking, than its predecessor. What is underneath the OS was not so important as how it' looked. And suddenly, in Windows 8 marketing strategy was turned up side down. No aero, no special transparency effects, and now we should return our focus from how it looks to rather OS itself.

It's funny how marketers think that they can do whatever they want with their customers. They better give a little bit of respect to customers' wishes and needs or they may loose the market share. And it looks like that's what going to happen with pushing Windows 8 on desktops. In other words, they're trying to shoot themselves into the foot...

That's not true, you're just speculating like anyone else.

Please to use Windows 8 on your primary system before you speak.


howardfine

join:2002-08-09
Saint Louis, MO
reply to OZO
said by OZO:

1) First of all, it's not true and market will always need desktop PCs (for businesses, for heavily computing tasks at home, for games, etc)

I keep seeing people say this but no one said the desktop is going away. What is being said, and the people who track these things show the numbers, that people more and more use a mobile device over a desktop computer for their general uses like surfing the web, email, facebook, etc. But there is a large swath of people who are dumping their desktop and using only their phones or a tablet at least.

In the web development community, the cry is, "Mobile first!" when creating sites. It has become important enough that all our sites work in the mobile arena and it's far easier to start a layout for a phone->tablet->desktop than the other way around.


Kramer
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Richmond, VA
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reply to Boricua
We are going off-topic here from discussing the article mentioned and there probably isn't much more you say about it, so this thread is now closed.