Beezel
join:2008-12-15
Las Vegas, NV | reply to dib22
Re: cement experts - does this look right? If there are permits then there has to be a inspector somewhere. |
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 dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
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I'm still not clear who the inspector is, the house is out in an area where the county does not even have an inspector. I'll ask him when I run by there, I suspect its the future houses insurance company inspector.
Since it was only that corner and access area they will be re-inspecting it but they can start building. When I am around there I will get some pics and post em so we can see how it looks.
My understanding they are not patching it yet due to temp they keep hoping for a warm up week or some rough electrical to use a tent/heater solution.
EDIT: and that pier was a mistake in more ways than one, it isn't used by the plans, I know they had the fireplace moved so I suspect it was a remnant from that re-location. |
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 Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to Sc0tt
said by Sc0tt:so..........we've gone from "does this pour look ok" to fighting city hall and what a-holes inspectors are?
pour looks like shit. it needs to be redone correctly.
Still choosing not to wait for the inspector? |
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 Sc0ttKneedraggerPremium
join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ | reply to dib22
so..........we've gone from "does this pour look ok" to fighting city hall and what a-holes inspectors are?
pour looks like shit. it needs to be redone correctly. |
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JoelC707Premium
join:2002-07-09
West Point, GA
kudos:5 | reply to AVD
said by AVD:The inspector has to give professional courtesy to the contractors, but they have to be courteous to the public too. I cannot think of any public service employee (that is not uniformed) that can get away with a vendetta against a citizen.
While in practice I agree with you, this is the way it should be handled. Unfortunately too often it isn't handled this way. What it really boils to is do you have the money to fight "city hall"? Some do and I've seen some that have that trump card hidden up their sleeve. Trust me, you NEED that trump card if you try and take on "city hall" because otherwise they generally have the "my shit don't stink" and "I can do whatever I want" attitude that really needs to be put back in it's place. |
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 dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on holdPremium
join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ
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said by AVD: I cannot think of any public service employee (that is not uniformed) that can get away with a vendetta against a citizen.
Are you SURE you live in NJ?? |
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AVonGaussPremium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL | reply to AVD
You're talking philosophy, cdru is talking in practice. |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to AVD
said by AVD:I cannot think of any public service employee (that is not uniformed) that can get away with a vendetta against a citizen. EPA, IRS, FBI, Department of Health, DHS, DoD, prosecutors office, ... |
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join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to cdru
The inspector has to give professional courtesy to the contractors, but they have to be courteous to the public too. I cannot think of any public service employee (that is not uniformed) that can get away with a vendetta against a citizen.
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cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to AVD
said by AVD:which makes him an employee of the people of the state/city/county/whatever. You don't determined if he is hired/fired. You don't determine his job performance. You don't get to tell him what to do or not do. You don't set rules for his job. There is no employer-employee relationship between you and him. He works for the people, but he is not your employee. |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to cdru
said by cdru: He's an employee of the state/city/county/whatever.
which makes him an employee of the people of the state/city/county/whatever.
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cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to AVD
said by AVD:the inspector is not god, and as a civil servant, is also an employee of the owner. No, he's not an employee of the owner. He's an employee of the state/city/county/whatever. You pay a permit and/or inspection fee, but that doesn't make him an employee of you. He is supposed to be unbiased and not have a dog in the fight with determining which side wins as long as the work is done to code. |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:8 | reply to MaynardKrebs
After seeing some of the work a few of my fellow electrical contractors have done "on the sly", I'm all for 3rd party inspections.
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said by Rifleman:Up here in Ontario the inspector doesn't even have to see the place for electrical. There is a list of "approved contractors" that never have their work checked out---and the places I've done suggest they should be.
That's only true for a small percentage of electrical contractors - ones that have consistently over a period of years have NOT had any inspection problems. Only those contractors are permitted to self-inspect. And the ESA (Electrical Safety Authority) does do random inspections of work done by these authorized self-inspecting contractors, to ensure that they are meeting electrical code. |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to AVD
These things happen even with the best contractors, (but more often with the worst) Its what the contractor does to rectify the situation that makes him a good one or a hack.
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to Jack_in_VA
said by Jack_in_VA:Most definitely but in the end the contractor is working for the customer this
said by Jack_in_VA:and if the contractor has problems with the AHJ's then the customer will suffer. I can tell you that if you aggravate an inspector too much you better be ready.
the inspector is not god, and as a civil servant, is also an employee of the owner. This being said, this should be resolved outside of the AHJ's oversight.
As the owner, I would not allow it even to go to inspection, then again, I have a little experience in these sort of things.
Back to your original point, having a pissed off contractor is no picnic either.
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
join:2003-02-06
Onion, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to cdru
said by cdru:The foundation might be able to be fixed. The pier needs to be removed and completely redone.
That's my layman's opinion in the OP's state.
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Tig
join:2006-06-29
Carrying Place, ON Reviews:
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Back on topic. I've been researching honeycombing and it's repair.
Here's a thread where engineers discuss a case.
»www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=230978
Each case is of course different. So if it does need to be repaired, would you trust the guys who screwed up the job in the first place? |
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Tig
join:2006-06-29
Carrying Place, ON Reviews:
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Sure I have. I had an inspector go off on me over a home I designed. I made an appointment to see him. We sat down, he backed off. I have a great relationship with that county now. If you're knowledgeable and respectful, it works out.
In the end, code is code. It's all in black and white. |
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dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO | reply to MaynardKrebs
said by MaynardKrebs:Are the sections we're looking at above or below grade?
If above grade, how much further up do they extend?
Above grade, and they go to thigh high. There is a cement footing (around 3x their width) under them with rebar that connects into these. |
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