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TODDRICK

join:2001-08-27
Milwaukee, WI
reply to Chinabound

Re: What is the best flavored coffee avaliable in the market?

Chinabound, I visit Burman's monthly when I am in Madison, I buy most of my green from them. I also visit Carr Valley Cheese in Middleton, less then a mile from Burman's. If you get the chance, drive there to pick up an order, Gary and Jon are very nice and I learn something on each visit. »www.Coffeeproject.com ships from Mukwonago WI along with several other locations. Cuts down on shipping charges but no local pickup. Then there's the Co-Op. So many sources, so many coffees, so much fun.

Happy roasting
Todd

billydunwood

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said by battleop:

I wonder if people make these kinds of posts just so they can feel special when they see the blinking message icon. Why not ask who is better Ford or Chevy or maybe OSX or Windows?

Ford. Windows. Nice try.
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battleop

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I wonder if people make these kinds of posts just so they can feel special when they see the blinking message icon. Why not ask who is better Ford or Chevy or maybe OSX or Windows?
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to DannyZ
I wasn't talking about that crap blonde junk. Sumatra was UNavailable to be served in their stores here until Starbucks started losing so much money and decided to go back to their roots a few years ago. You could not even get Pike's Peak in the stores here. ALL you could get was junkies fat/sugar choice (the froth, super sweet,, super fatty drinks or watered down weak crap they had the gall to say was coffee). They didn't even know what Sumatra was here! They thought it was a flavor. These were their "trained" barristers. They did not even know that Sumatra comes from Sumatra (they all failed geography in school).

I spoke with the managers and was told the problem was that Starbucks itself had decided to put Hawaii in their international stores not in USA stores and that internationally folks wanted weak coffee (Japan, etc). I was told that Hawaii stores were trying to become part of Starbucks USA. This eventually happened after Starbucks had started losing so much money and its CEO stated that he was taking Starbucks back to its roots...its beginning and away from the shitty glop drinks. After that announcement, it still was about 6 months before the Hawaii stores got straightened out, we got clean healthy, non-GMO food in Starbucks and strong, good coffee and barristers who understand that coffee lovers want NO gunk in their coffee...no cream, no sugar. They want it black and they want several varieties served each day. Our stores now will make you a fresh serving of whatever you want and they would never do that back when Starbucks was selling glop.
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DannyZ
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Erie, PA
reply to Mele20
said by Mele20:

Maybe because we were an International location instead of USA for many years they sold weak coffee. You could never get Sumatra or even Pike's Peak or Yukon blend ...all light roasted only.

I know you think you know everything, but you don't. Starbucks NEVER had a light roast until they introduced their blonde roasts in January of this year (2012) »www.starbucks.com/blog/introduci···ast/1098

I'm sure you (think you) know otherwise, but reality would beg to differ
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Mele20
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reply to CylonRed
Maybe because we were an International location instead of USA for many years they sold weak coffee. You could never get Sumatra or even Pike's Peak or Yukon blend ...all light roasted only. The frothy drinks have about disappeared now and Pike's Peak is always available and you don't get strange looks now if you want Sumatra. Hawaii locations, when under Starbucks International instead of USA, were nothing like USA mainland locations. A few years ago, I walked into a Starbucks in the capital of the state I was born in and the barrister took one look at me and said "Sumatra"...that's what you drink, right"? I was amazed. He said he could tell at a glance what coffee people preferred. He went by how they dressed, their mannerisms, voice, etc. and he pegged my mother instantly also as a non coffee drinker and offered the tea she likes all without speaking with her. That store told me Sumatra was their biggest seller in the store, and by bag, but in Hawaii, until a couple a years ago, Sumatra was unknown by employees and customers.

Speaking of "too strong", I LOVED when McDonald's was serving their excellent strong Premium coffee here for less than half what Starbuck's charges. Starbuck's is not afraid either to serve coffee extremely hot as it should be served. The other stores/restaurants are afraid to do that.
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
reply to Mele20
The Starbucks at the local grocery store still sells all drinks they used to sell and every Starbucks I have passed by still sell everything they used to sell. Not sure when they had the weak stuff as the people who generally did not like Starbucks complained that the coffee was too strong.

Tom from Bob and Tom still gets Starbucks and he gets flavored, frothy stuff that they made their name with...
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CylonRed
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Bloom County
reply to Hayward
Actually it is for people who like strong coffee or things added to their coffee. My step-mom loves their decaf as she likes strong coffee. I like flavorings and don't mind it as the coffee flavor comes thru with the other flavors.

Though it is exceedingly rare for me to drink it, since it is so expensive.
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to Hayward
Starbucks has a fine Sumatra. Our Starbucks no longer serves the junk weak shit, light roasted they used to serve. Now they have Pike's Place and Sumatra all the time. Finally. They finally wised up and stopped with the junk including all that froth junk that bares zero resemblance to coffee.
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Hayward
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reply to hitachi369
said by hitachi369:

I like my green mountain flavored k-cups

Not that coffee is grown in VT, but sorry they would so bastardize it.

But Starbucks is just plain coffee for people that don't like coffee.
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Hayward
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reply to hitachi369
said by hitachi369:

I like my green mountain flavored k-cups, I started drinking coffee recently because water is getting lame and im trying to be less fat. Non-creme coffee for the most part is calorie free so that is my modivation for drinking it.

At work I drink a black blue mountain blend which is tasty as well, that is drip.

significaaantly flavored its still not coffee. Its a beverage.

And must admit I occasionally do a vanilla (hazzel) nut one, but very lightly flavored still rather pure coffee.
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shaincruz

join:2012-10-10
reply to billydunwood
Costa Rica Tres Rios
Tres Rios is a premier coffee district in the Pacific Mountains of Costa Rica. This medium-bodied coffee offers a range of bright flavors, including delicious nutty undertones with a rich floral aroma and a sweet caramel finish.

shaincruz

join:2012-10-10
reply to billydunwood
Costa Rica Tres Rios

Tres Rios is a premier coffee district in the Pacific Mountains of Costa Rica. This medium-bodied coffee offers a range of bright flavors, including delicious nutty undertones with a rich floral aroma and a sweet caramel finish.


Kilroy
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join:2002-11-21
Saint Paul, MN
reply to Mele20
said by Mele20:

I had that when I got some with a pull date only a couple of months awaydark roast....just right.

The problem that both Hayward See Profile and myself have is that we bought the coffee straight from Gevalia. If they weren't shipping their freshest they deserve the dings. I don't know if I can buy it in the grocery store, but from my experience I wouldn't try it unless there was a very steep discount. And it had nothing to do with how long it sat around my house. I go through a pound or better a week.
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hitachi369
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reply to billydunwood
I like my green mountain flavored k-cups, I started drinking coffee recently because water is getting lame and im trying to be less fat. Non-creme coffee for the most part is calorie free so that is my modivation for drinking it.

At work I drink a black blue mountain blend which is tasty as well, that is drip.

Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to Hayward
I had that when I got some with a pull date only a couple of months away. But then the pull date started being 10 MONTHS from now and and the difference in taste was amazing...that is true for all coffee makers. It will taste crappy from any maker if the date is not WAY IN THE FUTURE.

As for cost, Gevalia is the same price as Starbucks when not on sale. It is is on sale most of the time because it is new here (first became available this summer) and thus it is cheaper than any other brand. The House Blend is a medium dark roast....just right.
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Hayward
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reply to Kilroy
said by Kilroy:

I'd recommend against Gevalia. In my experience the beans were too dry and never had much flavor. I think you can do much better.

I agree, got a free mini coffee maker from them, perfect for one person cup or two. It does a decent job, but the coffee left more than a bit to be desired...certainly not worth its cost.
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to HPC
Thank god our grocery stores here are not stupid enough to order any of those! What a vomitous bunch of crap. (I was going by what I can buy from Gevalia in grocery stores here. I've never seen their website).
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HPC

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reply to Mele20
said by Mele20:

Gevalia is NOT flavored!

well, except for their 14 flavors...
Pumpkin Spice, Hazelnut, French Vanilla, Irish Creme, Dark Chocolate Truffle, German Chocolate Cake, Pecan Torte, Cinnamon, Mocha, Creme Brulee, Vanilla Nut, Raspberry Danish, Amaretto, and Chocolate Raspberry...
»www.gevalia.com/flavor-collectio···,sc.html

None of which I care for, but does not change the fact Gevalia DOES produce flavored coffees in their "Flavor Collection".


Kramer
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join:2000-08-03
Richmond, VA
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reply to billydunwood
This doesn't exactly answer your question, but it will get you there. You can have the best coffee in the world and if you don't care for it properly or brew it properly, it is going to taste like shoe.

The best barista in the U.S. reveals her secrets
»www.slate.com/articles/life/doer···st_viral

Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to timcuth
Gevalia is NOT flavored! I HATE flavored. It is excellent coffee...the House blend is very Sumatran like. But, like with any coffee, the most important thing is the pull date. Try to get it with 8-12 month away pull date. Never buy coffee with a pull date that is only 60-90 days away. Never buy out of those fancy bins full of beans in coffee specialty stores either...that stuff is utter junk as it has been exposed to the air. Buy sealed only. Store air tight at room temperature not in the refrigerator or freezer.

The other important thing is your coffee maker. My Bunn just died on me at 4.3 years...sad and bad...my previous Bunn lasted 7.5 years and the one before that almost 11 years. Like everything else in this nation, Bunn has deteriorated badly. So, I bought a Mr. Coffee that slows the drip for strong coffee (Bunn has nothing fancy (except the price) ....never has) and the Gevalia tastes even better now. But I wish I had gotten a coffee maker that makes HOT coffee (there is one model of Cuisinart that makes extremely hot coffee I suppose they are not afraid of being sued)...almost none do since that woman sued McDonald's....there is no such thing as too hot coffee (unless it is boiling)...but she won and all coffee makers started making WARM coffee so that you have to heat it in the microwave right after brewing it for it to be hot. Coffee will be only so good as how hot the water that makes it (as well as the brand of coffee, date of expiration, how it is stored, what nation it was grown in - Sumatra- is the best- except for Blue Mountain that I haven't seen in Hawaii in many years).
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J E F F
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reply to billydunwood
If you want to taste the flavoured coffee I do believe you need some sort of enhancer. I know of people from regions that harvest coffee, they put a dash of salt in their coffee. Worked for them.

As others have mentioned, taste buds make a difference.
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jabarnut
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reply to billydunwood
Oh how I long for the days when I could go into any diner, coffee shop, restaurant, etc, and say: "One large Coffee-Black", and actually get one, without looking down endless rows of flavored junk, and having the salesperson look at me like I was some kind of nut job.
Heck, there have been times when there were so many different flavors, I couldn't even find what they considered "plain old coffee", and had to ask.
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Chinabound
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Antioch, IL
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reply to TODDRICK
I have the Fresh Roast SR-500 and order my beans from »www.burmancoffee.com/ out of Madison.
Check them out. Apparently, they have better pricing.


Kilroy
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join:2002-11-21
Saint Paul, MN
reply to timcuth
I'd recommend against Gevalia. In my experience the beans were too dry and never had much flavor. I think you can do much better. I don't remember their flavored coffees standing out in any way and I know that I had a couple of them.
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timcuth
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reply to billydunwood
I am not a fan of flavored coffees either, but if that is your thing I would recommend Gevalia. I would also recommend their mail order service, I am not sure if the quality of what they're now marketing in stores is as good. You could try it, though.

»www.gevalia.com/

Tim
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TODDRICK

join:2001-08-27
Milwaukee, WI

1 recommendation

reply to billydunwood
I agree with the others in that pre flavored coffee usually does not use the best quality beans. I also find that it can take awhile to get the flavor out of the brew basket and grinder so as to not interfere with the new flavor. You are buying whole bean coffee and NOT pre ground. Green coffee can be stored for a year or two with little degradation in flavor. Roasted whole bean coffee can be stored for about 10 to 14 days before it starts to degrade. Ground coffee starts to degrade as soon as it comes out of the grinder and is 'past it's prime' in a few hours. The nice odors coming from the can or bag are light organic compounds that should have been flavor in the cup.

That having been said what I do is buy high quality green (unroasted) beans, generally at a price about half or less than the same beans roasted by local specialty coffee roasters. I then roast them myself as needed which gives me control over 1) how fresh they are when brewed 2) what level they are roasted to. The same beans will taste different at different roast levels. 3) lets me try coffees that would otherwise not be available to me. 4) I get to save a few dollars while drinking premium coffee.

If I want flavors I would add them to each cup of brewed coffee.

I roasted for years using a modified hot air corn popper but now use a purpose built roaster, a Behmor 1600.

I also get a lot of enjoyment playing with the machine and beans and it is a helluva lot easier then brewing beer of making wine.

Here are two links to start you off:
Sweet Maria's, a large selection of beans but more important a guide to home roasting using a variety of devices and good pictorials of beans at each level of roasting:
»www.sweetmarias.com/index.php

and the alt.coffee FAQ, more information then one would think possible on coffee:
»www.thecoffeefaq.com/

Just something to consider. Have fun if you try it, I sure do. I can provide more links if desired.

Todd


Kilroy
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Saint Paul, MN
reply to billydunwood
Being a coffee black person myself the problem I find with the flavored coffees is that they really need sugar and/or cream to taste decent.

And you'll notice that most of them are already ground, not whole bean. I suspect that is because the flavoring is added after.

Like Lone Wolf See Profile I get different kinds of coffee, though mostly the Starbucks brand for convienence. They had a great one last year, Shade Grown Mexican. My standard is Sumatra, but I'll get three or four different kinds each trip, always whole bean.
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Snakeoil
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Mentor, OH
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reply to DannyZ
I have, I like the lime one.


DannyZ
Gentoo Fanboy
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Erie, PA
reply to Snakeoil
If you like unsweetened cold drinks, Starbucks' Refreshers are really good too. They're made with green coffee extract and fruit. You should try them if you haven't
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