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Can AMD survive?

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reply to trparky
I see them surviving as a GPU maker or low power/mobile CPU maker.

reply to trparky
It is indeed bad what has happened to them. I think the industry needs them to stay in the client PC business. It looks like they are heading to low cost, low power x86, and now it looks like Arm processors.

The turns the PC industry into a war between Intel, and Arm. Which is a very different situation than what we have been used to.

AMD lost their way somewhere. 10 years ago they had finally created a credible threat to Intel - even though they were still the smaller company. I don't think they followed Intel's mantra of "Only the paranoid survive". Intel come out of that a much better company, and AMD just continues to fall further behind.

I can't (and won't) speak for Intel, but I would think from a competitive perspective, it is better to have them around than not.
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reply to trparky
Some say Intel may not be able to survive the ARM initiative so “Can Intel Survive” is just as credible a question. Being an undisputed dominator of the x86 / x64 platform isn’t necessarily a good thing if the industry migrates away from it.

Keep in mind that what we want as enthusiasts isn’t necessarily going to effect what is going to happen in the future of the tech industry.

True- the same has been asked of Intel.

I have faith we can. I've seen the things we are doing, the internal mindset. Could I just be drinking the koolaid? sure, I suppose. But I think we are doing some really good things right now. Take a look at the Medfield based phones - once we have LTE onboard you'll start seeing those in the US. The Clovertrail tablets have been reviewed very well (see Anandtech's comments). Our manufacturing capability is amazing, and the product pipeline is well filled.

Not to say it'll be an easy road - it never is. But we will do everything we can to keep our products and brands relevant.

Again - just my opinion. Not an official statement from Intel of course.
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I think there will always be a need for more powerful chips than say, an ARM chip. Hell, look at Microsoft Surface. There are two models; one powered by ARM and the other by x86/x64.

It comes down to the purpose of the device. If you need a device that supports more than just your basic mobile computing, you get the Surface product that has x86/x64.
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reply to trparky
When AMD spun off Globalfoundries they screwed up in my humble opinion. They would have been better off downsizing than completely leaving manufacturing.

AMD will survive in some form or another, but in a few years will likely be very different from what they are today. And mind you, the desktop computer industry has begun its decline now. Few people recognize the value of building your own system, and fewer still care. Like it or not, until optical based processors become present, we'll see less and less of the desktop and laptop. People love tablets (well, I don't, but I don't count). Americans are more consumer than creator nowadays anyhow...
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reply to ccallana
Indeed,....

However, as Intel makes a priority of power efficiency in the mobile space and isn't being pressured by competition from the likes of AMD the performance market may suffer lackluster advancements.

If there is less demand for traditional computers then the availability and price of components could become a problem. Sort of like a Mac Pro, old technology that hasn't advanced significantly in years and cost ~$2500 just to start,.....ouch.

I'd never consider a tablet for main computing. Don't get me wrong, I have an Android tablet but I don't use it for general-purpose computing. Doing anything but simple things on it is a chore and don't get me started on typing on it, that's a complete PITA.
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The Convertible form factor will start to change all of that. A laptop, a tablet, all in one....

I've been using a Windows 8 tablet for several months now for work - it is certainly not ideal when away from the desk (at my desk it is docked just like a laptop). A convertible will solve that...
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reply to trparky
Like above I hope they do, but seeing as their high end chips are underperforming, and they're getting squeezed out of the low end by ARM, Intel and nvidia (which I think is part of the ARM ecosystem but I'm not sure) AMD better pull a rabbit out of it's hat ASAP.
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AMD and ARM Collaborate to Build 64-bit ARM-based Processors

There doesn’t seem to be much question that AMD is putting some eggs in the ARM basket too,….

reply to trparky
Come on now. All of you AMD haters. AMD is not bad whatsoever.

It's not hating on AMD - It's following the facts. They are losing market share, their products are not competing on the performance front and their management has made some pretty poor decisions.

Sure, they have decent products with low cost and such, but they are nowhere near as competitive as they were 10 years ago.

The question is legit - is their business plan viable in this market?
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