 shanerPremium
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Calgary, AB | reply to BigSensFan
Re: BB10 launches Jan 30 said by BigSensFan:cool new video at this link of the bb10 in action (different language but with subtitles)
also at the end of the article they say that the US pricing on a 2 year term will be $149 (no Canadian pricing yet)
»mobilesyrup.com/2013/01/21/new-b···sistant/
That video made me want a Blackberry again.
Sure seems like a winner.
I have to wonder though, if the new BB 10 OS is going to compress data as much as the current BB's do.
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| said by shaner:I have to wonder though, if the new BB 10 OS is going to compress data as much as the current BB's do.
I would expect as much since the phone is communicating the same data as before, you're just changing the interface. The only recent addition that I've seen is in regards to voice chats and voice notes. |
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shanerPremium
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Calgary, AB | I remember when HTML email came to BB and everyone was all like "That's gonna be soooo much data!" And then nothing happened. But, I just have to wonder if the complete overhaul will be sending packets more often like an iPhone. |
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| For enterprise communications I wonder the same, since new BES phones are connecting to ActiveSync rather than BES. |
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RiamenPremium
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Calgary | The ActiveSync protocol does allow for compression. Current iPhones and Android phones with Ice Cream Sandwich or later support it.
RIM was able to get good compression with their phones because all data to and from current Blackberries goes through their NOC. Problem with that system is it's a single point of failure as evidenced by recent outages affecting millions of Blackberry users all at once.
It's interesting that Blackberry 10 will use ActiveSync and not BES, I guess Microsoft won that battle. |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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HarperLand | reply to elwoodblues
My contract is up in April, so I've got lots of time to decide what my next shiny phone will be.
Like everything else, it's about the Apps, lousy apps, the phone will fail. My BiL works for RIM so I'm sure i can get one dirt cheap. |
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 TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
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Mississauga, ON | reply to elwoodblues
Today is the day. Let's see if they have any cards hidden up their sleeves.
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 JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium
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said by elwoodblues:My contract is up in April, so I've got lots of time to decide what my next shiny phone will be.
Like everything else, it's about the Apps, lousy apps, the phone will fail. My BiL works for RIM so I'm sure i can get one dirt cheap.
My contract is up in June... I will probably get one before then (from a friend that works at RIM ... Usually their cost is about 1/2 of retail but with this device, they may give some incentives to get as many out there as soon as they can)
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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My BiL works for RIM, so I'm sure the same applies |
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| said by elwoodblues:My BiL works for RIM, so I'm sure the same applies
What were you agreeing with  ? The 1/2 price or the extra incentives
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said by shaner:I remember when HTML email came to BB and everyone was all like "That's gonna be soooo much data!" And then nothing happened. But, I just have to wonder if the complete overhaul will be sending packets more often like an iPhone.
Very good question, and I'll answer that. BB's will continue to use very little data. With BB's is hard to use a lot of data unless you're actually downloading an actual file (like a movie or something).
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 mlernerPremium
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kudos:5 | said by J E F F:said by shaner:I remember when HTML email came to BB and everyone was all like "That's gonna be soooo much data!" And then nothing happened. But, I just have to wonder if the complete overhaul will be sending packets more often like an iPhone.
Very good question, and I'll answer that. BB's will continue to use very little data. With BB's is hard to use a lot of data unless you're actually downloading an actual file (like a movie or something). Unless they're going to bring back BES this is not the case. ActiveSync is a polling method so it will use data all the time. With compression, it will just use less to poll. |
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I'm hoping the phone companies will offer some nicer new plans for BB. I have been wanting to get a BB of late, but my current phone bill is $25, and I'm finding it hard to jump to $50 or more.. as for two people, that's a pretty decent increase when I mostly care about emails. Don't need all the other social stuff or Internet all that much. :\ |
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»tremolo.edgesuite.net/blackberry···dex.html
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said by mlerner:Unless they're going to bring back BES this is not the case. ActiveSync is a polling method so it will use data all the time. With compression, it will just use less to poll.
Yea, very disappointed with that. I was really expecting them to come out with a functional BES that wasn't so twitchier and was easier to manage.
Edit: I assumed you were referring to BesX, rather than BES 10. |
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RiamenPremium
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Calgary | reply to mlerner
said by mlerner:Unless they're going to bring back BES this is not the case. ActiveSync is a polling method so it will use data all the time. With compression, it will just use less to poll. ActiveSync does not poll it is a true push protocol and is reasonably light on resources. It's a fairly ingeniuous protocol as it uses a non-standard implementation of HTTPS and as I mentioned earlier does support compression.
I've looked furter into what RIM is providing with BB10 and it looks like they will be releasing BES 10 which will include management for iOS and Android devices as well as BB10. If you use BES 10 data will still be directed through RIM's NOC it's just the communication between the device and the NOC will use ActiveSync.
RIM is also giving companies the option of not using BES 10 and having BB10 devices communicate directly with the corporate Exchange server using ActiveSync. |
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said by bitchtorn:http://tremolo.edgesuite.net/blackberry_experience_launch/desktop_dvr/index.html
direct link to the feed.
Is your audio misbehaving? I have this music playing and this dude is talking, but I can't hear him. Edit: Nevermind, it changed during the next session with people advertising how much they like it. |
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