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dirtyjeffer
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reply to elwoodblues

Re: BB10 launches Jan 30

that's because you get everything for next to nothing as it is.



Kitlope

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reply to dirtyjeffer

said by dirtyjeffer:

said by Kitlope:

And with today's phone upgrade, I'm continuing to support Canadian.

is that phone made in Canada?

i know in the past, all devices were, but over the years, many of the models were shifted offshore.

Just took the back cover off and it says Made in Mexico. Well, at least it's on the same continent

Regardless, you know what I mean, with RIM... errr, Blackberry being Canadian and all.


dirtyjeffer
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yea, Mexico is where most of the handsets were made...i think there was one or two models made here, and maybe a one or two made in Malaysia (or something like that), but a vast majority were made in Mexico...being part of NAFTA means they can get it made down there for a lot less than paying Canadians to make it.



Juggernaut
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said by Guspaz:

Fido has that exact plan as a regular plan rather than a retention deal. In fact, a few months ago it was $57 for all that and 2GB of data, but that was a limited time offer.

And, it offers unlimited US and International text, as well as a few other freebies.
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elwoodblues
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said by dirtyjeffer:

that's because you get everything for next to nothing as it is.

And your point is?
Just because you might take the first offer that comes along, doesn't mean I should.

I have a sweet deal and I know it, and they know it, I am pretty sure I didn't even cover the cost of my 3GS.
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dirtyjeffer
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my plan is a pretty good deal...it is much better than "market offers".



Kitlope

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Good to know however there's no way in hell I'll ever go with Fido, at least here in Alberta since I believe they only cover the urban areas (Edmonton, Calgary and Red Deer, perhaps FT Mac now and Grande Prairie) and during busy season I'm all over the province and sometimes Sask & BC.

Now that I have unlimited talk, most specifically during business hours I may even get rid of my landline as that will save me another $25.00/month. I only had the landline because back in the day you needed one for a Telus dsl connection, I never minded this as landlines were still very common 10 years ago and it made "fiscal" sense because many cell phone plans back then charged by the minute, especially during business hours. That's what I had until today - 30 cents/min during business hours, weekends & evenings free and free unlimited long distance in BC & Alberta. A very popular plan at the time for us because we do most of our work out of town. But things have changed and that sweet deal obviously isn't so sweet anymore, so I'm really glad I'm off of it and have been thinking of that the last couple years but was locked into the contract.



Juggernaut
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Even on a term, Telus allows you to change plans, so there was never a worry about that.

Regardless, you now have a plan more suited to your uses. Like you, I work up north starting usually in March, and it's nice not to worry about my usage local, or LD.

BTW, I haven't had a LL for years now, and don't miss it a bit.
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Guspaz
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reply to Kitlope

said by Kitlope:

Good to know however there's no way in hell I'll ever go with Fido, at least here in Alberta since I believe they only cover the urban areas (Edmonton, Calgary and Red Deer, perhaps FT Mac now and Grande Prairie) and during busy season I'm all over the province and sometimes Sask & BC.

Fido, being a brand of Rogers, uses the Rogers network, and as such has identical coverage.
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J E F F
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reply to dirtyjeffer

said by dirtyjeffer:

said by Kitlope:

And with today's phone upgrade, I'm continuing to support Canadian.

is that phone made in Canada?

i know in the past, all devices were, but over the years, many of the models were shifted offshore.

Well, they do have about 9,000 working in Canada. Though I did hear through the vine that some phones made in Mexico (typical) and Canada. Either way, you're supporting the North American economy, not the Chinese.

That said, no idea where the Z10 is made, somehow here, who has one, can tell us. Pull the battery off, and look for the "Made in *****" stamp.
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Kitlope

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said by J E F F:

said by dirtyjeffer:

said by Kitlope:

And with today's phone upgrade, I'm continuing to support Canadian.

is that phone made in Canada?

i know in the past, all devices were, but over the years, many of the models were shifted offshore.

Well, they do have about 9,000 working in Canada. Though I did hear through the vine that some phones made in Mexico (typical) and Canada. Either way, you're supporting the North American economy, not the Chinese.

That said, no idea where the Z10 is made, somehow here, who has one, can tell us. Pull the battery off, and look for the "Made in *****" stamp.

Look at my post above, it's made in Mexico.


dirtyjeffer
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said by J E F F:

Either way, you're supporting the North American economy, not the Chinese.

meh...exploiting Mexican workers is really no different than exploiting Chinese workers...Made in Mexico is really no different than Made in China...actually, in the case of something like this, which is likely 98% made by a machine, even if it was "Made in Canada", it would likely be assembled my machines from all over the world (largely Europe).
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Juggernaut
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There's a bit more to that than just labour. Think chip security, and knocking off the product as well.

The Chinese are well known for it. "Give them one, and they'll make a million".
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digitalfutur
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reply to elwoodblues

So how many ostensibly BB supporters who've posted here plan to get a BB10 phone?



BigSensFan
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said by digitalfutur:

So how many ostensibly BB supporters who've posted here plan to get a BB10 phone?

I am .. I am on the waiting list at my local Telus store
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Juggernaut
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Will get my Nexus 4 next week, but I'll get a Z10 by April. I want it, but I have to have a modicum of discipline.



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said by digitalfutur:

So how many ostensibly BB supporters who've posted here plan to get a BB10 phone?

I'll be getting the Q10 when it's released only if I can get a deal on it through my provider, rather than the MSRP. I'd never pay more than $300 on a mobile phone regardless of the manufacturer.


dirtyjeffer
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reply to Juggernaut

said by Juggernaut:

There's a bit more to that than just labour. Think chip security, and knocking off the product as well.

The Chinese are well known for it. "Give them one, and they'll make a million".

i don't disagree with you, but if you don't think they won't buy one (or 50) and ship them to China to reverse engineer it, you're being silly.
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Juggernaut
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You were talking about manufacturing scenarios, remember?



TLS2000
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It's not just that. Reverse engineering a complete devices is more complicated than reverse engineering a device that you've been given the complete specifications for, including the processor.
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Juggernaut
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Were you replying to DJ, or me?



TLS2000
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Both
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Juggernaut
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Well, that's why I made the point that China wouldn't be an option. Give them the specs, and it's copied faster than light. And, the encryption etc. Some are not legally able to be exported by law.
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J E F F
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reply to Kitlope

said by Kitlope:

Look at my post above, it's made in Mexico.

So it's still supporting the NA economy...directly. If more US companies were to choose Mexico, damn, the US would not be having the issues they're having now.
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J E F F
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reply to Juggernaut

said by Juggernaut:

There's a bit more to that than just labour. Think chip security, and knocking off the product as well.

The Chinese are well known for it. "Give them one, and they'll make a million".

BINGO!

Yeah, that's another thing. Mexico isn't well known for that type of security breach. I mean, what guarantee do we have with the Chinese?! Only risk with Mexico is that you might have traces of the white powder...true story, by the way.
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Robrr

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reply to digitalfutur

said by digitalfutur:

So how many ostensibly BB supporters who've posted here plan to get a BB10 phone?

I will be once my finances adjust to a new vehicle payment. I dont want to end up like this



BigSensFan
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reply to elwoodblues

»www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2···nch.html

from this article

While there weren't the long lineups typical of an Apple launch, both Rogers and Bell reported strong demand for the phone, with 50 per cent of pre-orders coming from non-BlackBerry users, according to independent technology analyst Chris Umiastowski.

"We're hearing that pre-order sales have exceeded iPhone sales for the last three months," Umiastowski told CBC News.
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I'm actually tempted to get it. But wondering if I should wait to see what other phones they'll release this year though. I still have some time as my contract ends in April before Fido starts spamming me with offers.

Also need to find a decent plan offer... Got too used to my $25 plan so it's going to be hard to accept anything more than $35 a month. :\



TLS2000
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Umiastowski is a BlackBerry fanboy. He is a regular writer on Crackberry.com. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm just saying he drinks the Kool-aid.
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TLS2000
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reply to elwoodblues

I said to hell with it and "reserved" one last night. I was 2683 in the queue. I looked today and now I'm in the 2800's. Awesome job Rogers.
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