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andyb
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reply to resa1983

Re: CNOC Files w/ CRTC Against Rogers

If you has signed up for UBB stuff you would get everything still.I get everything for this rogers tariff too from that.Well except from CNOC who seem incapable of sending to anyone but the CRTC

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Here's Rogers's final response to TN28-30. They sent it to me directly for once.
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resa1983
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reply to AOD
Rogers doesn't have to file til 8pm EST.

I haven't received anything from JF today - he's been forwarding me everything as I'm not on any of the established email lists.
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AOD

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reply to PrettyPink

said by PrettyPink :

Any word on Roger's response today?

+1?


PrettyPink

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reply to HeadSpinning
Any word on Roger's response today?


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reply to Anon

said by HiVolt:

Are you f'n kidding me? It was probably Bell ordering the hit on him last time, now it's probably Rogers! LOL.

He's fine. Car not so much...
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Shrug

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reply to resa1983

Re: CNOC Files w/ CRTC Against Rogers

I'm glad CNOC made reference to your filing and more or less copied it. I'm pretty sure it would have went ignored, as they always have in the past.

CNOC and JF made sure it didn't.

But then again, we have seen over the years how CNOC, CAIP, and JF referenced blatant lies people have pointed out and the CRTC ignored it anyhow. *shrug*

I'm also kind of surprised that PIAC or the consumers union didn't bother with this one (equal access). But then again Since Anthony Hemond left the consumers union I find they aren't the same, or as involved or as vocal.

You did good. +1 to you. Let's wait and see how (if) the CRTC acknowledges it.

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said by Feelings :

I have a good feeling.

Karma is definitely on the side of CNOC

First the prez of CNOC gets struck by lightning and lived to tell about it
»Prez of CNOC Hit by Lightening

and now he just got in a car accident which totaled his car on the 401 and he's still chugging away.

Both heaven and hell doesn't want this guy. Guess he's stuck in CRTC purgatory.

Lawlz. I was talking with someone about that this morning.

For those who don't know: Bill was cut off on the 401 Express, and totaled his car. He's ok.
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reply to resa1983
I have a good feeling.

Karma is definitely on the side of CNOC

First the prez of CNOC gets struck by lightning and lived to tell about it
»Prez of CNOC Hit by Lightening

and now he just got in a car accident which totaled his car on the 401 and he's still chugging away.

Both heaven and hell doesn't want this guy. Guess he's stuck in CRTC purgatory.


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CNOC refiled their submission. Will update my html page in a minute.

EDIT: Done. Looks like they added a pdf printout of Rogers' own press release showing they said it was re-speeding, and not 'new' tiers like Rogers had stated.
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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

said by TakeOffEh :

Sigh. It's as I feared. We won't be seeing any resolution on this until next year.

Which was probably precisely Rogers' plan, given that they had to know that TPIA providers would protest and the CRTC back & forth isn't quick...

Its quicker than usual as this is an expedited process. Some of those other processes can take months on end.

Its very possible the CRTC decides before the beginning of Christmas break, and order they provide the upgrades immediately.
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reply to TakeOffEh

said by TakeOffEh :

Sigh. It's as I feared. We won't be seeing any resolution on this until next year.

Which was probably precisely Rogers' plan, given that they had to know that TPIA providers would protest and the CRTC back & forth isn't quick...


TakeOffEh

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reply to resa1983

said by resa1983:

Someone in IRC asked me to create an easier to follow timeline of everything, because the CRTC's site really sucks, and cuz this thread bounced a bit between the 2 proceedings.

Thanks, that helped immensely.

Sigh. It's as I feared. We won't be seeing any resolution on this until next year.

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reply to bt
Someone in IRC asked me to create an easier to follow timeline of everything, because the CRTC's site really sucks, and cuz this thread bounced a bit between the 2 proceedings.

So here's the full timeline with links, and a bit of a summary:
»dl.dropbox.com/u/9038867/Rogers/CRTC.html
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reply to TakeOffEh

said by TakeOffEh :

So CNOC filed, Rogers responded, CNOC followed up, now it's time for CRTC to decide? Is that correct? As far as I can tell, that seems to be the case.

Rogers response to the CNOC response is due Tuesday, IIRC.


TakeOffEh

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reply to aaah
So CNOC filed, Rogers responded, CNOC followed up, now it's time for CRTC to decide? Is that correct? As far as I can tell, that seems to be the case. If so, could that mean we may finally see a decision some time next week?


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reply to Guspaz
Read it right after I posted it.

The "crystal clear" comment was in the email I sent to the TN28-30 filing (ie the 2011-703 participants).
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reply to aaah
Hmm, a few typos in the CNOC letters. Orphan words, asking the CRTC to be "grating" them relief, etc.

resa: the reference to you, on top of the "is in receipt of" thing at the start, appears to be these paragraphs:

said by CNOC :

As noted by Ms. Murphy, it is crystal clear that for those Rogers retail end-users that have or acquire DOCSIS 3.0 modems, the speed increases are automatic (i.e., do constitute a “re-speeding”) and do not involve any rate increase as admitted by Rogers in the press release attached to this reply in which Rogers announced the speed increases;

and
said by CNOC :

Finally, CNOC shares the concern expressed by Ms. Murphy that upstream speed increases provided to Rogers’ retail end-users free of charge are not also being extended to end-users of TPIA customers as required by paragraph 210 of Decision 2006-77, and so CNOC urges the Commission to act on this matter as well, but without holding up the etermination of the CNOC Application as it related to Rogers Tariff Notice 28.

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