Wireless Service Providers → Re: Homebrew DSL

Some guys call them alarm circuits. Be careful they don't try to upsell you to LDDS (limited distance data set) circuits at a higher cost.

I think CLEC status can get you rack space and other stuff at tariff rates. Otherwise, they have you over a barrel. CLEC can also get you on their poles.

In my area of Ontario Latch fee's (pole fees) are stupid. Up to 43 per month per pole after the first year - first 12 months are 30% off though (waahoo!). Makes hanging your own fibre totally impractical. I've only ever succeeded once in getting a dry pair for a 'serial line' connection. Fee was 29 per month, or about 2x the DSL Dry Loop fee for that Bandrate. Strapped a pair of SDSL modems on it and got a whole .5 Mbps. Telco had no interest in troubleshooting it because it was well beyond the 9,600 bps that they 'guaranteed' on that serial line. That worked for a while and then I just built a WISP instead and now I get 20 Mbps But yes I've thought about the same thing. Even considered trenching my own multi pair cable in some areas (like trailer parks) but that's a totally different expense and hassle.

I just approached one of the local power companies that serves the villages in my area and was amazed at the price they quoted for pole fees. $1.88/pole/YEAR. I am now planning some fiber deployments because it would be just plain stupid for me not to do it at that price.

Trenching really isn't all that bad, goes pretty quick. Just cherry pick your markets. I'm finally getting my project well under way. My new problem is not having enough bandwidth, people are craving it!

Joe, your message is still lingering, will get back to you asap, might give you a call instead.

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Nice.. It would a 1.88 per hour here.

No problem. I've been out of the office this whole week on a rare opportunity to take a vacation. I'm going to tour another community fiber network in a week or so to see what they've done to build their system. They're also doing CATV over it, so it will be interesting to see the backend of that system.

Wow thats perfect, and now that you have a cheap lead on poles. Lucky. I was told down here they are $30/pole/year.

Is that community you are looking at local? Take me along!!! ;P

Yeah, it just happens to be the rate they set like 30 years ago when the CATV providers wanted to use the poles, and they said it wouldn't be fair to charge us more than they were charging someone else. They admitted they should probably revisit them someday, but that the increase probably wouldn't be significant. Heck, even if they raised the rates to double or triple, I would still view it as very reasonable.It's Crosslake Communications in Crosslake, MN. They have been very open to talking about their project and were more than willing to give me a tour and show me what they have done, and what they wish they would have done differently. The only thing better than learning from your own mistakes is learning from someone else's.

ROFL. Fair ? What a concept

Around here, not being one of 'the three' means they gouge, screw, rape and pillage you for all they can... and of course the gov. funds them up the ass but a competitor gets nuthin because they aren't 'big enough' ... Oh how I dream of even a near to fair market