silbaco Premium Member join:2009-08-03 USA |
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Re: The next Bell SystemThe profit margin on FiOS could be very good, but as long as people continue to use DSL/copper it will remain low. Verizon needs to move everyone over to FiOS and off of copper because it is pricey to maintain a copper network. But they can't, so it continues to sit. If they could future FiOS expansion would not be out of the question. |
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Oh_NoTrogglus normalus join:2011-05-21 Chicago, IL |
Oh_No
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2012-Nov-13 1:34 pm
I dont get this comment. Verizon owns the dsl/copper lines and the fiber lines. If they upgrade an area for fios they can force people to switch by turning off the copper. |
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Yello
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2012-Nov-13 2:50 pm
Verizon's legacy wireline business is regulated and publicly funded via USF. They cannot just force people onto FiOS abandon the copper. |
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to silbaco
said by silbaco:The profit margin on FiOS could be very good, but as long as people continue to use DSL/copper it will remain low. Verizon needs to move everyone over to FiOS and off of copper because it is pricey to maintain a copper network. But they can't, so it continues to sit. If they could future FiOS expansion would not be out of the question. Verizon hasn't paid more than lip service to actually offering 1gigabit and beyond to it's FIOS customers. Profit margins are dependant upon the consumer's income which at last check is getting squeezed tighter than a ponzi scheme bank acount after the money is laundered (stolen). In 1996 dollars, you should have been able to afford $99 triple play services inclusive of all taxes & fees as a mid-grade tier. in 2012's dollars that's pushing $149.. What was the google's dual play price $140? This includes gigabit symmetric. While the price should have gone up.. the verizon mid tier should reflect easily 100 - 300 megabits symmetric by now. One last thing, there was at least a 2 year period of price deflation from 2008 - 2010 where all consumer prices were on a freeze or decline (if you saw prices increase you were getting gouged). Glad to see Google fiber is now live instead of vaporware.. many people were speculating the first actual customer served would be well into next year.. (q1-2013) |
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elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA |
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said by Yello :Verizon's legacy wireline business is regulated and publicly funded via USF. They cannot just force people onto FiOS abandon the copper. Actually, they can, unless the FCC reverses itself. But revisiting forbearance would not solve anything. The problem is the underlying cost of FTTH - a price most consumers are unwilling to pay. Re-regulating telco would result in higher, not lower prices overall. |
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They could force you over to FiOS. AT&T did this in areas where they built out FTTH under Project Lightspeed. and only the dial-tone is regulated, not the Internet. They could also pull an AT&T and go to each state and ask them to de-regulate their business and remove MTS if the customer bundles- which states are doing for AT&T. |
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skuv to Oh_No
Anon
2012-Nov-13 4:39 pm
to Oh_No
said by Oh_No:I dont get this comment. Verizon owns the dsl/copper lines and the fiber lines. If they upgrade an area for fios they can force people to switch by turning off the copper. Not unless they are going to charge the same price for FIOS internet and phone as they are for DSL/POTS to the people they forced over. |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
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said by tmc8080:verizon mid tier should reflect easily 100 - 300 megabits symmetric by now. Why? Based on what? said by tmc8080:One last thing, there was at least a 2 year period of price deflation from 2008 - 2010 where all consumer prices were on a freeze or decline (if you saw prices increase you were getting gouged). The real rate of inflation is what matters, not the CPI fluff numbers that get thrown around. I doubt there was any more "gouging" going on than normal during the last few years. |
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Kamus join:2011-01-27 El Paso, TX |
Kamus
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2012-Nov-13 9:40 pm
Based on the fact that we're talking about an information technology. Here's an example of an information technology you might be familiar with: » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo ··· re's_law |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
openbox9
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2012-Nov-13 10:05 pm
That doesn't answer my question. |
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Kamus join:2011-01-27 El Paso, TX |
Kamus
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2012-Nov-13 10:21 pm
said by openbox9:That doesn't answer my question. It does answer it. |
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openbox9 Premium Member join:2004-01-26 71144 |
openbox9
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2012-Nov-13 11:47 pm
No. |
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