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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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More hoopla.

This isn't going to attract a steady stream of tech jobs into Kansas City like they hope. Chattanooga has been the "GIG City" for over a year now and there is not a mad dash of incoming high tech jobs.
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xenophon

join:2007-09-17
Chattanooga is not selling for $70/month, doesn't have Google behind it and doesn't have much existing tech employment. KC already has about 3000 tech/IT shops and 60K tech employees, about the same as Austin. KC is already a top 10 telcom town. So not at all the same situation.


battleop

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Maybe the difference will be that Google will sell you a GB and not charge you an extra $9k/mo if you intend to use the GB.
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brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
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Google. They should of made the line free and bill by the TB. $40 per 1TB.

TBBroadband

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reply to xenophon
you also fail to say that Dell is not very far from Austin either and has been there since 1996. Also Austin is home to MegaPath the largest CLEC in the country/NA.

KC I wouldn't say is a top 10. the only real HUGE company they have in the region is Sprint-Nextel and that's even outside of the city.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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I'm talking metro here. KC metro is not a top ten overall tech town but it does literally rank 8th in telcom employment. KC had about 65K tech employees in 2009 and is now growing again, Austin also had about same in 2009, also growing.

Cerner is largest medical software developer and growing rapidly bringing thousands to KC, Garmin is based in KC metro too. Perceptive Software is growing uncontrollably fast, with hundreds of new employees every year, gobbling up office space. A global ATM operator is based in KC and growing. There are a couple thousand small tech/software companies in KC and KC ranks high for Android development. Austin is just different, more on the computer hardware/semiconductor side. KC is more telcom/software based.

»www.techamericafoundation.org/cy···sas-city
»www.techamericafoundation.org/cy···0-austin

My point was that KC metro has a tech ecosystem more comparable to Austin. Chattanooga doesn't.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to brianiscool
Hahahahahaha...no. Then they'd actually lose money, and potentially discourage folks from using the connection.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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reply to xenophon
I wonder what Austin didn't decide to give Google that KC did, in order to get GFiber deployed. Both areas have large TWC and AT&T presences, so I wouldn't think that Austin balked because the incumbents are a large employer in the area any more than KC might have. Could be wrong though.

Sure, Austin has a "third pipe" wireline provider in some areas (Grande), but they're a far cry from SurewestKC.


skuv

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reply to brianiscool
said by brianiscool:

Google. They should of made the line free and bill by the TB. $40 per 1TB.

So if they bill by the TB, they would basically be rounding everyone under a TB up. That wouldn't be quite fair.

Why wouldn't they bill by the GB instead and have it come to $40 per month for a TB?

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to iansltx
said by iansltx:

I wonder what Austin didn't decide to give Google that KC did, in order to get GFiber deployed.

Google said they liked the innovated ideas KC area had (Cerner med software developer and KU Med Center hospital were mentioned in particular and Kauffman Foundation, which is a major entrepreneurial foundation based in KC).

They also liked how efficient KCK govt is. For a low income city, they run a very tight effective city/county govt that is recognized around the country by city govt operators. They've pulled in a lot of ecodev activity in last 15 years that no low income city has come close to, Google being just one, but the biggest.

KCMO is the real core city of the metro and was announced 6 months later. It will get Gfiber next Spring.

TBBroadband

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If they based their decision off a medical center Google really made a horrible decision. Especially when they could have gone to cities like Cleveland that have TOP RATED medical schools in the country- both ranking higher than KCK, the would famous Cleveland Clinic Foundation/Hospital and Innovation Center/labs which is the largest and most trusted heart hospital in the world. You have one of the largest county operated hospitals in the country that own that has outstanding doctors, again ranks in the top 5 hospitals in the country, you have University Hospitals and their famous Rainbow Babies & Children's Hospital along with a 30million dollar brand new cancer center in the US, also ranked in the top 10 hospitals in the country for both care and research.

Google took KCK only due to the fact the city would give them ANYTHING to build their, free power, sure!, free use of the poles, SURE, and you can even deploy ABOVE the actual limit for FREE, until they found out they had to pay for the techs to install there.

Google seen a sucker and found one. Nobody else would take them.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17

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reply to battleop
WSJ article...

»www.google.com/news/url?sr=1&sa=···296.html

quote:
The group has been meeting weekly, including with representatives from Google and local government, and pinpointing available space in the neighborhood for other startups. Late last month, the group made the pitch to more than 100 people at a Kauffman event, telling the tech-centric crowd, "If you're going to launch a startup, please start it in Hanover Heights." The idea was well received; now they're trying to find space in the neighborhood for nearly a dozen more startups.

Mr. Barreth is mulling inquiries from startups across the nation that want to move into his house. Mike Demarais, a 20-year-old from Boston, moved in last month and is working on building a software platform to design products for three-dimensional printers.

"Silicon Valley and Boston are getting saturated," he said. Many young entrepreneurs can't afford to live in those cities, he said, but they can start their own Web-based companies with a few hundred dollars. "And this seems like a cool place to do it," he said.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to TBBroadband
If KCK goes bankrupt then I will buy into your otherwise bitter tirade.

xenophon

join:2007-09-17
reply to TBBroadband
said by TBBroadband:

Google took KCK only due to the fact the city would give them ANYTHING to build their, free power, sure!, free use of the poles, SURE, and you can even deploy ABOVE the actual limit for FREE, until they found out they had to pay for the techs to install there.

Google seen a sucker and found one. Nobody else would take them.

Yeah, the 2 cities gave away low risk concessions but put very little actual dollars into this compared to other civic projects like arena, sports venues. There is nothing wrong with public/private partnerships like this. Neither of the city's credit rating are at risk with this compared to larger civic projects. The payback will likely be huge.

Google obviously invested a great deal and is the one at risk, though they can afford it.