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Teddy Boom
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reply to Guspaz

Re: New Band Rates?

said by Guspaz:

TSI used to mark up dry loop rates by a fixed amount (three something, if memory serves).

I'm sure you are right, and I totally respect the need to add markup. Teksavvy and all the other small companies need to make money. At the same time, this isn't the clothing business, and it does look like the Band Rates need to be reviewed. More so for companies charging $10 or $11 across the board though. As it is, the band rate fees are driving many customers towards cable who would be perfectly happy on DSL.

As to whether Teksavvy makes more money on cable or DSL, I've got no idea.. I've thought about it a lot, and I've heard lots of claims, but I don't find any of it particularly credible. In general, I'm sure margins are thinner than they should be. Let's hope capacity charges are made at least a little more sane..
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HeadSpinning
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Windsor, ON
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reply to Teddy Boom

said by Teddy Boom:

I don't know what constitutes a wire centre (are you talking ASQUITH and DUFFERIN and such? If so, many of those buildings cover areas that are both Band A and Band B). I do know that when I sold a lot of DSL, I found that about half of Toronto proper was on Band A, and the other half Band B. Outside Toronto proper, Band A was pretty rare. Almost everybody in an urban area was at most Band B.

In Toronto, Adelaide, Asquith, Eglinton and Simcoe are Band A Wire Centres. Everything else is Band B.

In Ottawa, O'Connor is Band A, everything else is Band B.

As near as I can tell, there are no other Band A offices outside of those 5 in Ontario. London, Kitchener, etc., are all Band B or higher.
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Teddy Boom
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said by HeadSpinning:

In Toronto, Adelaide, Asquith, Eglinton and Simcoe are Band A Wire Centres. Everything else is Band B.

Well, I've gone through Asquith exchanges on Teksavvy's rate lookup tool (which seems to be gone now) many times, and I know for sure that some of the exchanges at Asquith came up as Band B. I'm also pretty sure that some exchanges on Dufferin came up Band A.
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hm

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reply to HeadSpinning

said by HeadSpinning:

Regardless of what the ILECs charge their own retail customers, the fact is they charge IISPs and CLECs to use their facilities, and there has to be cost recovery and reasonable margin on that charge.

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

HeadSpinning
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Windsor, ON
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reply to Teddy Boom

said by Teddy Boom:

Well, I've gone through Asquith exchanges on Teksavvy's rate lookup tool (which seems to be gone now) many times, and I know for sure that some of the exchanges at Asquith came up as Band B. I'm also pretty sure that some exchanges on Dufferin came up Band A.

Then either you were mistaken or Teksavvy's lookup tool is wrong. My information on Toronto and Ottawa rate bands is taken directly from the tariffs filed by Bell with the CRTC.
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HeadSpinning
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said by hm :

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

Bell has filed for price increases on CO floor space as well as power.
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funny

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said by HeadSpinning:

said by hm :

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

Bell has filed for price increases on CO floor space as well as power.

its the waaa we didn't get to buy astral so we gonna make everyone else pay scene is it?


dillyhammer
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said by funny:

its the waaa we didn't get to buy astral so we gonna make everyone else pay scene is it?

They'll own Astral before 2013 is over. Bank on it.

Mike


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said by dillyhammer:

They'll own Astral before 2013 is over. Bank on it.

Doubt it. In fact, I'd be willing to bet the CRTC's response will be identical to what it was before - not in the public's interest, therefore denied.

HeadSpinning
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reply to funny

said by funny:

said by HeadSpinning:

said by hm :

Didn't Bell et al also raise recently raise rates for access to facilities? Or was it to the C/O? Seems I recall seeing a CRTC filing on this.

Bell has filed for price increases on CO floor space as well as power.

its the waaa we didn't get to buy astral so we gonna make everyone else pay scene is it?

No - they filed for those before the Astral deal was rejected.
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