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antdude
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How long do Linksys routers last?

Hello.

Is it me or do Linksys routers do not last very long? I had two different Linksys routers (many years ago's BEFSX41 v1 and 2009's WRT54GL v1.1 with their latest stock firmwares). BEFSX41's network stopped loading correctly even with its internal web pages and after reinstalling its latest firmware. WRT54GL seems to be having random and rare wired network disconnection problems with my computers and cable modem, so maybe it is the router. My friend's five years old Linksys WRT router was misbehaving even with third party firmwares (both DD-WRT and Tomato).

Do these consumer routers not last very long?

Thank you in advance.
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CylonRed
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I have a WRT54GS v2 that I got basically on clearance because version 4 or 5 was just being released. I actually got it from CompUSA and it is still running. Been at least 6 years old with stock firmware - nary a hiccup.
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antdude
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said by CylonRed:

I have a WRT54GS v2 that I got basically on clearance because version 4 or 5 was just being released. I actually got it from CompUSA and it is still running. Been at least 6 years old with stock firmware - nary a hiccup.

Interesting and thanks.
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reply to antdude

My Linksys/Vonage RTP300 is 7 years old, and it is still in use. The external power brick started causing random reboots and router hangs several years ago, but the router itself is still going strong (using a power brick from a retired Motorola VT2442 router).

Problems that are seen by router owners as a problem with a consumer/soho grade router are often actually a problem with the external power brick.
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antdude
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said by NetFixer:

My Linksys/Vonage RTP300 is 7 years old, and it is still in use. The external power brick started causing random reboots and router hangs several years ago, but the router itself is still going strong (using a power brick from a retired Motorola VT2442 router).

Problems that are seen by router owners as a problem with a consumer/soho grade router are often actually a problem with the external power brick.

Interesting. Power bricks. I will have to try that.
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KoRnGtL15
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reply to antdude

I have owned 3 Linksys routers so far. BEFSR41, WRT54GL (ran with Tomato firmware) and now using my current E4200 V1. Never had a problem with any of them and had the first 2 for a few years. My latest one I have had about a year and a half now. Maybe a little longer? I tried Netgear once and it was a early 3700. Terrible. Since then I have always returned to Linksys. My only complaint with them. They are slow to release new firmware and even the current EA6500 does NOT have a built in bandwidth meter. That is pretty much standard in routers now. Linksys is still living in the dark ages regarding that feature.



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said by KoRnGtL15:

I have owned 3 Linksys routers so far. BEFSR41, WRT54GL (ran with Tomato firmware) and now using my current E4200 V1. Never had a problem with any of them and had the first 2 for a few years. My latest one I have had about a year and a half now. Maybe a little longer? I tried Netgear once and it was a early 3700. Terrible. Since then I have always returned to Linksys. My only complaint with them. They are slow to release new firmware and even the current EA6500 does NOT have a built in bandwidth meter. That is pretty much standard in routers now. Linksys is still living in the dark ages regarding that feature.

Do I assume third party firmwares have this feature?
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dbarber

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reply to antdude

I have installed BEFSR41, BEFSX41, and BEFSR81 routers for clients. One of the BEFSX41 routers failed after 7 years. The others are still going strong after 6-10 years.
At home I have a Cisco\Linksys E3000 (running TomatoUSB) that has served me well for a couple of years with no problems.
I don't think that Linksys is any worse than any of the other companies.
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CylonRed
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reply to antdude

quote:
WRT54GL seems to be having random and rare wired network disconnection problems with my computers and cable modem,
The cable modem should be in front of the router I would think. Highly doubt the router is causing a modem issue.

Explain the issue (any and all symptoms) and the steps you have taken to find the cause of the issue.
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antdude
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said by CylonRed:

quote:
WRT54GL seems to be having random and rare wired network disconnection problems with my computers and cable modem,
The cable modem should be in front of the router I would think. Highly doubt the router is causing a modem issue.

Explain the issue (any and all symptoms) and the steps you have taken to find the cause of the issue.

I am not losing cable modem connection. My LAN computers seem to lose connections through network cables every morning for two seconds each per day. I am still trying to figure this out.
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SX41v1 that ran for over 4 years and then retired.
WRT54GSv1 w/ stock firmware that has been/is running for 7-8 years as an AP.
RV082 that has been/is running for over 7 years.
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KoRnGtL15
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reply to antdude

Yes both Tomato and DD-WRT. They have many more features then what stock firmware offers.



Hagar

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reply to NetFixer

Power bricks is a common issue another issue is bad ventilation of the case and overheating.

I have a Wrt54G almost 10 years running DD-wrt



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said by Hagar:

Power bricks is a common issue another issue is bad ventilation of the case and overheating.

I have a Wrt54G almost 10 years running DD-wrt

That is why I "stack" my modems/routers/switches with plenty of breathing room.



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Jan Janowski

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reply to antdude

I ran multiple V1 BEFSX41's for maybe 6-7 years... Re-capped the power supply once... Ran beta code in these for years. Never killed one with an upgrade, but I did have one SX41 die. (All were Used Ebay purchases, so who knows how old they were....)
Same with WRT54G Ver 1... except just release Linksys/Cisco code

About 3 years ago, upgraded to Gigabit in house, replacing Cat5E for Cat6 wiring throughout.
Swapped BEFSX41's for RVS4000's (one new, one Ebay/Used).... WRT54G for E2000 (New) and 100mb to Gigabit switch.... Latest Cisco firmware, IPS loaded in each....

I've got one bug.... E2000 doesn't have bridge mode, so I have to toggle one setting on reset or power failure. But other than that, I'm relatively happy with these....
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I just replaced my Linksys WRT160N. We've had it for 7 years, with no issues. Well, until recently. The issue was we had more wifi devices then what the router could handle. So I just purchased a Cisco Linksys AC 1750 router. So far, everything seems to be working better.
This router is rated for 7+ wifi devices, we have 12 wifi devices.
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I'll have to get this, as the table top is getting crowed, and as the whole shelf unit you have showing is wire, it looks like air circulation is good [for keeping things kool.]
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antdude
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said by Snakeoil:

I'll have to get this, as the table top is getting crowed, and as the whole shelf unit you have showing is wire, it looks like air circulation is good [for keeping things kool.]

Yeah, I hope it's stable during a small earthquake. :P

Zach1
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reply to antdude

said by antdude:

I am not losing cable modem connection. My LAN computers seem to lose connections through network cables every morning for two seconds each per day. I am still trying to figure this out.

Are you using DHCP to assign IPs? If so, are your lease times set to expire after 24 hours?
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antdude
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said by Zach1:

said by antdude:

I am not losing cable modem connection. My LAN computers seem to lose connections through network cables every morning for two seconds each per day. I am still trying to figure this out.

Are you using DHCP to assign IPs? If so, are your lease times set to expire after 24 hours?

I am using static IP addresses for the wired computers. However, I have not seen this problem for a couple days so far...


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Ah hah, I just saw it in person! Both my wired computers lost connection for a couple seconds again a few minutes ago at about 9:51 AM PST. I could not find anything about in the router's log since incoming is empty (a known issue?) and outgoing shows what I connected (my two computers and www, ntp, ircd, and www which are correct; usually shows way more!). It seems like my router rebooted? I am going to try manually power cycle. If that fails, then reset to default factory and redo my configurations from scratch.



antdude
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said by antdude:

Ah hah, I just saw it in person! Both my wired computers lost connection for a couple seconds again a few minutes ago at about 9:51 AM PST. I could not find anything about in the router's log since incoming is empty (a known issue?) and outgoing shows what I connected (my two computers and www, ntp, ircd, and www which are correct; usually shows way more!). It seems like my router rebooted? I am going to try manually power cycle. If that fails, then reset to default factory and redo my configurations from scratch.

Boo. It happened again after I left home this morning. I think I will plan for a reset to factory settings for this long Thanksgiving 2012 weekend. Should I do the physical method or through the software?--
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Mike Wolf

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Keep us informed of your progress.



antdude
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said by Mike Wolf:

Keep us informed of your progress.

Just a quick status. I made a firmware backup, did the physical reset yesterday afternoon, reconfigured from scratch (did not set everything like my previous ones, just the important/required ones like the same SSID, same static LAN IP addresses for two wired machines, etc.)).

I am not sure if this was the same before, but my physical router's Cisco Systems logo is orange color instead of white. I can't really remember if it was white. My brain thinks it was white before. However, I read that this is for EasySetup which I never used and pretty sure I disabled. Is there a way to view my backup without restoring to the router to check?
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said by antdude:

I am not sure if this was the same before, but my physical router's Cisco Systems logo is orange color instead of white. I can't really remember if it was white. My brain thinks it was white before. However, I read that this is for EasySetup which I never used and pretty sure I disabled.

»homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wirel···-p/54559

The Cisco logo is the Router’s SecureEasySetup button. It lights up and will stay orange when the Router is powered on. The color orange indicates that the Router is not using the SecureEasySetup feature, while the color white indicates that the Router is using the SecureEasySetup feature


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I have three WRT54's of varying age with the oldest has be getting on at least 8 years and I thought when I moved a year ago I wondered if any of them would puke on me but they all fired up and run, well, probably better after I blew about 8 years of gunk in one of them. Friggin' things seem to be indestructible.... uh oh
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antdude
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So far so good after a day, but previous quick disconnects weren't daily. Just almost. We'll see how goes tomorrow and on.



antdude
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said by NetFixer:

said by antdude:

I am not sure if this was the same before, but my physical router's Cisco Systems logo is orange color instead of white. I can't really remember if it was white. My brain thinks it was white before. However, I read that this is for EasySetup which I never used and pretty sure I disabled.

»homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wirel···-p/54559

The Cisco logo is the Router’s SecureEasySetup button. It lights up and will stay orange when the Router is powered on. The color orange indicates that the Router is not using the SecureEasySetup feature, while the color white indicates that the Router is using the SecureEasySetup feature

Yeah, I am not using that feature.
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public

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reply to NetFixer

said by NetFixer:

The Cisco logo is the Router’s SecureEasySetup button. It lights up and will stay orange when the Router is powered on. The color orange indicates that the Router is not using the SecureEasySetup feature, while the color white indicates that the Router is using the SecureEasySetup feature

Actually the cisco light leds are connected to gpio pins, and can be controlled by the user to signal any condition.


Mike Wolf

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within the stock firmware and without modification to the board?