Topic 'Re: Hard Drive Deals' in forum 'Canadian Chat' - dslreports.com

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:30:45 EDT

Anav posted : »www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX44463
No PM opportunity, starting to think they are in cohoots LOL.

Prolly same manuf rebate to vendor, or price drop.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:23:20 EDT

donoreo posted : TD has 4TB for $159

»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···smith.ca

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Thu, 16 May 2013 17:12:17 EDT

elwoodblues posted : The 4tb is a good deal, checked shopbot, most prices average $50-60 more.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Thu, 16 May 2013 16:38:49 EDT

TLS2000 posted : Tiger Direct has 4TB for $149 after coupon right now.

They've also got 240GB Sandisk SSD drives for $149 after rebate.
--
Tom

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Thu, 16 May 2013 16:27:11 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : hm I did like 3 MIR for a PC I built for my father in-law I got everything no issue.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Thu, 16 May 2013 10:29:56 EDT

IamGimli posted :

said by Wolfie00:

I did a MIR once that impressively let you register online, then you could track when they received it and when the cheque had been sent. Wish I could remember what product that was for.

MSI outsources their MIR to a company that does that, and also pay the MIR in prepaid AMEX cards which, unlike the prepaid VISA cards you get with ASUS, are in CAD denomination and don't have the stupid monthly "processing fees" and other usage rules that reduce their value to nothing as you effectively cannot use them in Canada.

I think the third party is 4myrebates.com or something similar. Never had a problem with denied claims with them, although they do take a long time to come in. They offer you the option of taking $5 or $10 off the value to make them process it faster.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 15 May 2013 16:24:24 EDT

vincom posted : agree, I wont buy a product based on rebates
also wont buy a hd unless it has a min of 3yr warranty

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 15 May 2013 16:22:28 EDT

Wolfie00 posted : I've never had one rejected, however I've lost or forgotten so many that the actual sample I'm basing that on is very small. And this is mainly what they count on! :D

I did a MIR once that impressively let you register online, then you could track when they received it and when the cheque had been sent. Wish I could remember what product that was for.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 15 May 2013 15:12:13 EDT

donoreo posted : Mail in rebates suck. They reject for anything.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 15 May 2013 13:31:14 EDT

Anav posted : Tiger direct and rebates, bronx cheer for that..

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 15 May 2013 11:42:00 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : »www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···tId=4357

Seagate ST3000DM001 Barracuda 7200.14 Hard Drive - 3TB, SATA III (6Gb/s), 3.5", 7200RPM, 64MB

$129 comes with $30 MIR so $99.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 15 May 2013 11:01:14 EDT

Gami00 posted : »www.canadacomputers.com/product_···d=042242

Seagate 3TB for $120, though 2 limit per person.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:05:31 EDT

Styvas posted : Yeah, I noticed that too. Very irritating. :p

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:05:00 EDT

Wolfie00 posted :

said by elwoodblues:

Sold out online, you have to hit a store for it.

Brilliant website programming! The site lists a bunch of local stores where it's in stock, but because it's sold out online, nowhere does it tell you the freaking price!

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:24:51 EDT

urbanriot posted : Damn. There was one in my cart this morning lol

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:36:17 EDT

elwoodblues posted :

said by urbanriot:

For those that didn't have a Costco card for Gone's post of last week's external Seagate 3TB USB 3.0 drive, TigerDirect has a 2 day sale here:
»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···csid=_61

Sold out online, you have to hit a store for it.
--
No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake.......

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:42:13 EDT

urbanriot posted : For those that didn't have a Costco card for Gone's post of last week's external Seagate 3TB USB 3.0 drive, TigerDirect has a 2 day sale here:
»www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/···csid=_61

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:21:19 EDT

Guspaz posted :

said by BrianON:

The data content of large writes doesn't go in the ZIL. Moving large files to ZFS does not fill the ZIL unless you do them in small pieces and fsync or equivalent often.

For small writes, the data is stored as a part of the log record. For writes greater than zfs_immediate_write_sz (64KB), the ZIL does not store a copy of the write, but rather syncs the write to disk and only a pointer to the sync-ed data is stored in the log record.
»blogs.oracle.com/realneel/entry/···tent_log<\blockquote>

True, but who knows what kind of bizarre BS Samba is pulling. I hate it so much, it's super unreliable. But there's no other choice.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:14:46 EDT

BrianON posted : The data content of large writes doesn't go in the ZIL. Moving large files to ZFS does not fill the ZIL unless you do them in small pieces and fsync or equivalent often.

For small writes, the data is stored as a part of the log record. For writes greater than zfs_immediate_write_sz (64KB), the ZIL does not store a copy of the write, but rather syncs the write to disk and only a pointer to the sync-ed data is stored in the log record.
»blogs.oracle.com/realneel/entry/···tent_log<\blockquote>

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:13:08 EDT

Guspaz posted : No more than it would destroy the SSD if it was the actual storage device that all writes were going to. The cache drives I've got in there are Intel 80GB G2 SSDs (there was a super duper cheap sale on them, they were like $30 or 40?), good for something like ~800TB of writes, so they should last a long time on a file server that doesn't have a lot of churn (it's storing media files and such, not a lot of deleting going on). And if it starts getting near the end of it's lifespan, I can always just remove the drive.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:10:08 EDT

Gami00 posted : how are SSDs for your ZIL drive?

I thought it would destroy those pretty quickly..

My SSD for L2ARC doesn't seem to be as busy as I thought it was going to be originally..

the Best ZIL drive I can think of is that old Gigabyte PCI RAM drive card. it had 4 slots and could do up for 8 GBs of DDR2 ram.. i've heard some ppl pushed it to 4 x 4 GBs of DDR2 ram to get 16 GBs..

its still pretty fast compared to HDDs, and it seems like the perfect ZIL drive with unlimited writes, and an easy way to clear all bits.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:59:11 EDT

Guspaz posted : It's a mass storage file server with a big fat RAID array with a ton of RAM (24GB) and multiple SSD caches (one for ZIL, one for L2ARC), so there isn't any performance improvement from 7200RPM (might have slightly higher IOPS if the SSD caches don't get it, but the GigE port is the bottleneck). As a result, all that 7200RPM gets me is more noise and more power without any benefit.

I live in a 366 sqft one-room apartment, with that server maybe 15 feet from my bed with nothing in between to block the noise. So how loud the drives are is pretty important to me.

EDIT: I'm not sure 7200RPM drives actually have any real use anymore. SSDs have come way down in cost (Crucial has a 960GB model for $600 MSRP now), and 5400 RPM is better suited for mass storage (you don't care about performance if you're using HDDs instead of SSDs)
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:03:55 EDT

NefCanuck posted :

said by urbanriot:

A lot of us have 5400 ~ 5900 RPM 'green' drives in our servers, mainly for cost or energy reasons (or both).

Don't forget noise concerns too...

5400RPM drives are usually much quieter and as I use my computer room as a broadcasting studio any extra noises picked up by the mic are unwanted :D

NefCanuck

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:11:43 EDT

urbanriot posted : A lot of us have 5400 ~ 5900 RPM 'green' drives in our servers, mainly for cost or energy reasons (or both).

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:58:46 EDT

elwoodblues posted : Why 5400 and not 7200?

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:43:16 EDT

Guspaz posted : Buddy pointed out that BestBuy is selling 4TB Hitachi 5400RPM drives for $150 ($170 with $20 recycle rebate). I was tempted, since I need seven and only want the 5400RPM (NOT the 7200RPM), but they're a discontinued drive, so building a RAID array out of a disk you know will be impossible to replace individually isn't a great idea, even if ZFS is supposed to be fine with non-matching drives.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:41:38 EDT

Gone posted : Yeah, I was up at Costco on Sunday and I usually take a look at all that stuff but decided to beeline to what I needed and got out quickly instead. :huh:

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:34:15 EDT

urbanriot posted :

said by Gone:

That's a real good price, I'm tempted to drive up to St. Cats and pick up two.

Yea, now might be a good time if the exchange rate heads up... I saw 4TB for $129 and I thought that was a good deal too.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:25:25 EDT

alexpb1 posted : I have a Seagate Backup Plus 3TB that gets lots of use. It's an excellent drive! Doesn't get anywhere near as warm as my 3TB Seagate Expansion.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:19:52 EDT

Gone posted : That's a real good price, I'm tempted to drive up to St. Cats and pick up two.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:54:17 EDT

Styvas posted : Good eye! Unfortunately, I don't actually need one, and don't have a spare hundred lying around to buy it and save it for later.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:52:23 EDT

IamGimli posted :

said by dirtyjeffer:

weird...my 896MB GTX 260 is massive compared to that thing...that card kind of looks like a low end card, but i guess with 4 GB of RAM on it...my card barely, and i mean barely, fit in my tower.

It may be 4GB but it's DDR3, not GDDR5 like other graphics card. This seems to be more angled at a market that doesn't required high performance but a lot of video memory, probably some sort of CAD software or still picture editing.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:49:34 EDT

IamGimli posted :

said by Styvas:

Just saw this one at Costco. Seems like a decent price for 3TB.

That's a clearance price (note the asterisk and the .97 price). If you're thinking about it, don't wait too long as they're on their last pallet of that product.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:45:59 EDT

Styvas posted : I'm running two similar Seagates right now without problems, but they don't get heavy use, admittedly. The only drive I've had literally fail was a Western Digital quite a while ago.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:43:33 EDT

vue666 posted : Nice find... my only issue would be it's "Seagate".... ;-)

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:39:01 EDT

Styvas posted : Just saw this one at Costco. Seems like a decent price for 3TB.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:48:37 EDT

SeanDeMarco1 posted : Hey Western Digital it has been quite awhile now since the flooding that caused you to raise prices. Please return prices to something close to the pre-flood prices ... now !

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:58:01 EDT

Guspaz posted : 1.25TB per platter would still be under the 1 terabit per square inch limit, so it's not surprising. Combined with HGST's 7 platter drives...
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:06:53 EDT

alexpb1 posted : 1.25 TB platters are under development according to some articles I've read. People are speculating whether WD's 5TB drives will be 5x 1TB platters or 4x 1.25 TB.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:58:07 EDT

Guspaz posted : They top out at about 1 terabit per square inch with PMR, theoretically, after that they move to HAMR, which has been demonstrated already at 1 terabit per square inch. So that's around where the transition point is. Current 1TB/platter drives are somewhere between 566-625 Gbit/sqin depending on the surface area of the platter.

Traditionally, we can fit up to 5 platters in a standard 3.5" drive, meaning current areal densities can support 5TB drives. HGST, however, announced that their new Helium-filled drives will sport 7 platters, which would mean 7TB drives. Once we max out the current-generation technology (perpendicular), it seems like we'll be somewhere around 11-12TB before the current recording technology is maximized. I don't expect them to go that far, though, because there will come a point where it will be REALLY hard to maximize the current technology, and increasingly easier to just jump to HAMR.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:35:15 EDT

elwoodblues posted : I though they hit the wall on the current tech with 4tb?

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:45:37 EDT

alexpb1 posted : Even better deal:
NCIX just matched the $139.99 price.
They are also offering free shipping too.
Apparently if you already ordered from ME you can contact them and price match the free shipping offer from NCIX and be refunded the difference.

»www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78093···oid=1293

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 15:04:43 EDT

HiVolt posted :

said by Guspaz:

WD still hasn't released their 4TB red/green drives :(

Yep, I'm looking for 4TB REDs to upgrade one of my NAS boxes...

the 8x3TB RED NAS is working great... quick, quiet and very little energy usage... Idles around 55W, in use around 62W. Compared to my old server which idled around 200W and 250W read/write its quite an improvement.
--
F**K THE NHL. Go Blue Jays 2013!!!

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:59:24 EDT

Guspaz posted : WD still hasn't released their 4TB red/green drives :(

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:54:49 EDT

alexpb1 posted :

said by urbanriot:

said by alexpb1:

In case anyone is interested, Memory Express has a one-day only deal on those 4TB Seagate Backup USB 3.0 external drives.

$139.99 + $4.99 shipping.
»www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43639

That's the best so far! I'm very excited that 4TB drives have finally come to the price they should have been about a year ago! So excited I used two exclamations in my previous two sentences.

Yeah, I am hoping this $140-$150 starts becoming the norm.
Western Digital is to release their new 5TB Red/Green models by the end of this year, so hopefully it helps drive the price of 3/4TB drives down even further.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:38:23 EDT

urbanriot posted :

said by alexpb1:

In case anyone is interested, Memory Express has a one-day only deal on those 4TB Seagate Backup USB 3.0 external drives.

$139.99 + $4.99 shipping.
»www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43639

That's the best so far! I'm very excited that 4TB drives have finally come to the price they should have been about a year ago! So excited I used two exclamations in my previous two sentences.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 03:36:26 EDT

Guspaz posted : If memory serves, the Intel iGPU in Ivy Bridge processors is slightly faster than A GeForce 630. That might give you an idea about how low-end a 640 is, not that model numbers are directly related to performance.

Intel's next GPU, in Haswell, should be at least three times faster; it has 250% the execution units, an updated architecture, and up to 128MB of onboard VRAM. Yeah, they're starting to actually put video RAM on CPUs.

At this point, Intel has already rendered the ultra-low-end of the discrete graphics card market irrelevant (why buy a 610 when your iGPU will be substantially more powerful?), and the next generation is going to kick that up a notch... They've been so far behind that they're improving at a much faster pace than nVidia or AMD as they catch up.

This development in GPU power is particularly of note for "retina" displays, since the number one factor holding back performance in high-resolution notebooks is the graphics chip.
--
Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:30:00 EDT

alexpb1 posted : In case anyone is interested, Memory Express has a one-day only deal on those 4TB Seagate Backup USB 3.0 external drives.

$139.99 + $4.99 shipping.
»www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43639

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:37:46 EDT

Gone posted : The GT640 is a low-end card. Even today the GTX260 is not.

Re: Hard Drive Deals

Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:33:38 EDT

RogersLite posted : Well I have a 1GB GT640, and the RAM just seems like a gimmick. Like it probably won't take advantage of all that memory before the GPU Core bottlenecks it.
It is approximately the same performance as my 9600GT I have.

In comparison the GTX560 is a much better card and only has 1GB :P.
--
Residence: WRT400N DD-WRT - pfSense P4 2.8GHZ, 1.5GB RAM
Home: Teksavvy Extreme Cable 28/1
WNDR3700 + RT-N13 DD-WRT