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Re: R.I.P. Twinkee?

The Teamsters Union had already agreed to cutbacks, but the Bakers Union refused and went out on strike....

Look, my dad belonged to a union.

But here in metro NYC and NJ, when we desperately needed utility workers to come in and help out after Sandy, the IBEW union on Long Island demanded that some of the utility workers who came up from the southern states sign an agreement acknowledging the union and handing over 22 percent of their salary to the union.

The workers and their company both said screw that, and they went to help out in Pennsylvania instead.

This was reported on WCBS-TV Channel 2 in New York.

So while management can be bad, so can unions.

And the proximate cause of no more Twinkees is the Bakers Union. As I said, even the Teamsters had agreed....


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said by PX Eliezer:

But here in metro NYC and NJ, when we desperately needed utility workers to come in and help out after Sandy, the IBEW union on Long Island demanded that some of the utility workers who came up from the southern states sign an agreement acknowledging the union and handing over 22 percent of their salary to the union.

Those referral fees were a great way to make money. Toronto District School Board had those kind of fees until recently.
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Do you know where the crews from Kitchener went (Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro)? They sent like 20 trucks or so. I don't think the city owned utility would be up to paying some damned union 22% from their workers wages...
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said by J E F F:

Do you know where the crews from Kitchener went (Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro)? They sent like 20 trucks or so.

Sorry, no.

I actually had need to drive a lot through NJ, NYC, and north of NYC last Friday.

Saw lots of out-of-area workers, but didn't happen to see your guys. This is a huge region of course.

The trouble with the electrical worker union was on eastern Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk counties, east of NYC) AFAIK.

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I'll tell you what, though, wherever they ended up, the people down here who saw trucks marked "Hydro" would be awfully confused.


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Oddly enough, Kitchener Hydro was at Long Island, not sure if it was at that part. No mention of it in NY papers though..





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said by J E F F:

Oddly enough, Kitchener Hydro was at Long Island, not sure if it was at that part. No mention of it in NY papers though.

Ah, well, thanks for the help.

Long Island geographically includes Kings (Brooklyn), Queens, Nassau, and Suffolk counties. Because the first two became part of NYC, most people today just mean Nassau and Suffolk when saying Long Island. But even Nassau and Suffolk have about 2.8 million people.

Anyway, the help was very welcome, I am sure.


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said by J E F F:

Do you know where the crews from Kitchener went (Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro)? They sent like 20 trucks or so. I don't think the city owned utility would be up to paying some damned union 22% from their workers wages...

I saw a lot of hydro trucks from that area on the thruway a couple weeks ago.


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Those referral fees were a great way to make money.

sure. . . if racketeering is your gig.


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said by Kalford:

said by DKS:

Those referral fees were a great way to make money.

sure. . . if racketeering is your gig.

Curious why you would say that. The practice is legal. In the private sector it's called a "commission".
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said by DKS:

Curious why you would say that. The practice is legal. In the private sector it's called a "commission".

Regardless of the name, what is the fee for?

I honestly have no idea what that's about.


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said by DKS:

said by Kalford:

said by DKS:

Those referral fees were a great way to make money.

sure. . . if racketeering is your gig.

Curious why you would say that. The practice is legal. In the private sector it's called a "commission".

Suuuuure it is. . . and when the mafia goes in demanding a 22% cut of storekeepers' profits . . .they're merely getting their "commissions" too.


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said by DKS:

Those referral fees were a great way to make money. Toronto District School Board had those kind of fees until recently.

"Making money"?. That's called legalized parasitic extortion.
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