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Trev
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Re: IPKall is good, but not CallCentric SIP

said by ConstantineM:

I highly advise against putting CallCentric into the mix. Especially from a SIP-registration standpoint, their servers are highly unreliable,

Is there even anything left to beat of that poor unfortunate horse?

For every ConstantineM who highly advises against CallCentric, there are 20 forum regulars who will highly recommend them.
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said by Trev:

For every ConstantineM who highly advises against CallCentric, there are 20 forum regulars who will highly recommend them.

Indeed.

It is particularly galling that he feels that an arrangement including IPKall is a preferable alternative to CallCentric.

IPKall is housed in a single place with not even any pretense of customer support other than in a Voxilla forum. All of the things he doesn't like about CC are even more true of IPKall.

Connie was also going on and on last year about how CC caller ID display didn't include a [+] sign. Yet CC follows the same practices as a score of other providers he never carps about.

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ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA
reply to Trev
said by Trev:

Is there even anything left to beat of that poor unfortunate horse?

For every ConstantineM who highly advises against CallCentric, there are 20 forum regulars who will highly recommend them.

First of all, your proportions are completely not true. The amount of people who no longer recommend CallCentric, to those who blindly ignore the apparent problems, is not nearly 1 to 20, or not even 1 to 2 (it's probably max 1 to 1).

Second, even CC seems to be advising, or have been advising just a couple of weeks ago, to not use their SIP servers for registration due to their apparent DDoS, and to instead register a free account with some competing provider, and to forward incoming numbers to such competing provider. That's what I've been doing with my numbers with CC for a long time anyways (since they don't support simultaneous registrations), and I've been mostly unaffected by their DDoS.

With that said, what exactly is wrong with my advise as given above in my previous message? You obviously didn't quote my reasons, but it's not like I'm just bashing CallCentric for no reason whatsoever.

Lack of multiple concurrent SIP registrations alone is a good enough reason to avoid CallCentric when all you want to use is IPKall and Google Voice. I stand by my words. If they didn't want to be "beaten", maybe they should finally address the problems instead of bashing their competitors.

ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA
reply to PX Eliezer70

CO and diesel

said by PX Eliezer70:

It is particularly galling that he feels that an arrangement including IPKall is a preferable alternative to CallCentric.

IPKall is housed in a single place with not even any pretense of customer support other than in a Voxilla forum. All of the things he doesn't like about CC are even more true of IPKall.

IPKall only provide incoming phone number termination, they don't even provide SIP registrations, you have to have a SIP registration with another provider. IPKall having a second place wouldn't make much difference at all; noone here is expecting for the COs to be in the cloud.

Also, I highly doubt that IPKall doesn't have a diesel power generator; I'm pretty sure they have plenty of diesel power (but then again we were all pretty sure that CallCentric had one, too); CallCentric is probably the only major provider to lack a diesel power generator at their facilities.

ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA

IPKall locations

said by ConstantineM:

said by PX Eliezer70:

IPKall is housed in a single place

IPKall only provide incoming phone number termination, they don't even provide SIP registrations, you have to have a SIP registration with another provider. IPKall having a second place wouldn't make much difference at all; noone here is expecting for the COs to be in the cloud.

BTW, for what it is worth, there is actually no proof that IPKall is housed in a single place. It's my understanding that they have a presence at several COs; and as such, I would not be surprised if some of their numbers are serviced and terminated completely independent from others, meaning that should a single CO/DC go down, some other CO/DC would still continue to terminate at least some other numbers from other COs for at least half (etc) the customers.

Of course, it'd be interesting to know more about their actual setup.
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reply to Trev

Re: IPKall is good, but not CallCentric SIP

said by Trev:

said by ConstantineM:

I highly advise against putting CallCentric into the mix. Especially from a SIP-registration standpoint, their servers are highly unreliable,

Is there even anything left to beat of that poor unfortunate horse?

For every ConstantineM who highly advises against CallCentric, there are 20 forum regulars who will highly recommend them.

 
I see both sides' points here.

CallCentric has acknowledged (at least in this forum, thru Iscream) that the geo-redundancy and backup power limitations exist, and intention has also been stated that they will be seriously examining what improvements can be made, in what order, and how soon.

MY only comment to ConstantineM is that (s)he should take them at their word and give CC a brief 'time-out', to see what happens.

I have not read of his/her alleged past complaints against CC, nor their merit, though in principle, (s)he DOES have a point about the recent issues, IMNSHO.

But as I suggested above, let's all give CC a chance for a while, and see what they do after the small particulate content of the air comes to rest.