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DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to Gunn

Re: [Exede] Port forwarding?

Via DISH's Dish Online / Sling Adapter / 722k Ongoing Issues

"I was having similar issues with dish online not connecting to my dvr. I do not have the sling adapter. I did a port scan of my VIP722K and found port 49200 and 5101 to be open and set both up as port forwards on my router and now I am able to connect. ....
ISP is Exede Satellite 12MBS up 3MBS Down

»support.dish.com/viewtopic.php?f···start=30

Gunn

join:2007-08-02
Drayden, MD
Thanks, that sounds good. Gives me hope that I can have a method to access my home network from anywhere someday.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by Gunn:

I can have a method to access my home network from anywhere someday.

Sidebar - I found this tidbit interesting:

How can I view a device (like an IP camera) on my AyrMesh Network from the Internet?

There is no way to do this with any router except the AyrMesh Routers. Making a device on your local network visible on the Internet is accomplished by a simple trick called “port forwarding” – opening a port on your router and forwarding that port to a device on the network. The AyrMesh Routers unify the AyrMesh network so they can “port forward” to devices networked on the AyrMesh Hub(s)

Via this product: »www.ayrstone.com/wp/products/ayrmesh-hub/

Gunn

join:2007-08-02
Drayden, MD
said by DrStrangLov:

Sidebar - I found this tidbit interesting:

How can I view a device (like an IP camera) on my AyrMesh Network from the Internet?

There is no way to do this with any router except the AyrMesh Routers. Making a device on your local network visible on the Internet is accomplished by a simple trick called “port forwarding” – opening a port on your router and forwarding that port to a device on the network. The AyrMesh Routers unify the AyrMesh network so they can “port forward” to devices networked on the AyrMesh Hub(s)

Via this product: »www.ayrstone.com/wp/products/ayrmesh-hub/

The only problem with what they say is that in order to accomplish port forwarding, your ISP has to support/allow it! That's my issue. I'm using the Verizon MiFi cellular service now. And I've tested an AT&T 4G wireless hotspot device. The AT&T router admin webpage has the standard port forwarding page and it looks like it is supported just fine. But it doesn't work. I guess the device (made by a 3rd party manufacture) supports it, but the service (AT&T or Verizon) don't allow it. Has something to do with how they assign IP addresses and route them through their network...

That's why I'm interested in Excede; as that is my only other option out here... Those AyrMesh products are interesting though. I've done a similiar homebrew extended range network here in the past using a couple of routers setup with DD-WRT firmware and cantennas to get my local WiFi connection in a barn 500ft away without any problems. They advertise up to 2 miles!

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

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reply to DrStrangLov
said by DrStrangLov:

said by Gunn:

I can have a method to access my home network from anywhere someday.

Sidebar - I found this tidbit interesting:

How can I view a device (like an IP camera) on my AyrMesh Network from the Internet?

There is no way to do this with any router except the AyrMesh Routers.

Any router can port forward. That company sounds very misleading. Significantly higher priced than their competitors. The Wi-Fi Hub costs $325 for something similar from Ubiquiti that costs a fraction of the amount and it is not a hub.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by silbaco:

That company sounds like a complete scam.

I suspect that comment was in regards to a full AyrMesh setup (router + Hubs). Company spokesperson has indicated that Hub units are "tweaked to deliver longer distances (with lower bandwidth)..."

Actual Hub they are using a a modified PicoStation2: »www.ubnt.com/picostation which can be bought for less than $100.00, and it can be programmed via Linux SDK.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to Gunn
said by Gunn:

port forwarding

In several weeks, I could check via older non-used computer to see if ports are blocked, but computer I'm using now has firewall tuned on, along with router's firewall turned on, and I ain't going to open these firewalls up on this computer.

There are internet programs like ShieldsUP,

»www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2

to test all ports, but I don't have time to do this now.

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA
reply to DrStrangLov
said by DrStrangLov:

I suspect that comment was in regards to a full AyrMesh setup (router + Hubs). Company spokesperson has indicated that Hub units are "tweaked to deliver longer distances (with lower bandwidth)..."

Actual Hub they are using a a modified PicoStation2: »www.ubnt.com/picostation which can be bought for less than $100.00, and it can be programmed via Linux SDK.

Perhaps my initial opinion was a little harsh. I have no doubt that their products perform as advertised. But the price they want for them is unreal. I sure hope they give a person good service for that cost. That would maybe make up for the cost.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to Gunn
said by Gunn:

The only problem with what they say is that in order to accomplish port forwarding, your ISP has to support/allow it!

FCC’s Open Internet Rules specifically applied to "fixed Internet." But, these rules "do not prohibit discrimination on the mobile Internet."

»cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2011/···ou-think

In FCC's document cited below, on page 54, it suggests these mobile broadband providers should disclose their policies...I ain't got the time to read the fine print, but if true, then Verizon/AT&T should have somewhere their policies.

1. Application of Openness Principles to Mobile Broadband

a. Transparency

97. The wide array of commenters who support a disclosure requirement generally agree that all broadband providers, including mobile broadband providers, should be required to
disclose their network management practices.300 Although some mobile broadband providers argue that the dynamic nature of mobile network management makes meaningful disclosure difficult,301 we conclude that end users need a clear understanding of network management practices, performance, and commercial terms, regardless of the broadband platform they use to access the Internet.....

»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···01A1.pdf

Gunn

join:2007-08-02
Drayden, MD
Nice link, thanks. Ill have to read more in my liesure time.

As I'm stuck with either a cellular or satellite home internet, it bothers me that port forwarding, while a standard for cable or DSL is not for mobile networks. And the real kicker is the mobile device itself supports it, but I guess the network does not. I just found out that at&t does offer a static IP and port forwarding, but only for corporate accounts....!

And I hate being stuck in a 2yr contract to check it out.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by Gunn:

port forwarding

Exede's Official Statement: Network Management Policy – Exede by ViaSat-1

"ViaSat does not intentionally block any particular form of traffic or reset a subscriber connection that otherwise complies with the Exede Terms of Service, except that ViaSat may block NetBios, TCP/UDP port 135-139 at the user terminal. These services allow file sharing over networks. When improperly configured, they can expose critical system files or give system access to any malicious intruder connected to the network. Further, from time to time, ViaSat may block additional ports that it reasonably believes may be a security risk to the network."

»www.exede.com/legal

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

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said by DrStrangLov:

said by Gunn:

port forwarding

Further, from time to time, ViaSat may block additional ports that it reasonably believes may be a security risk to the network."

»www.exede.com/legal

I am surprised they still recycle that old line. A security risk maybe if you throw a factory windows 98 machine on directly connected to the modem. Modern routers will block these attacks, as will well configured software firewalls. Of course there are a lot of people who still use Windows XP with a crappy firewall or use Mint/Ubuntu with the default configuration of no firewall. But that is not the ISP's problem.

ISPs should not block any ports unless requested.