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silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
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reply to DrStrangLov

Re: 2012 Popular Science Best of What's New Award

Testmy.net is about as good of a source as yahoo answers. Again last week I did a speedtest on a 300mbps symmetrical fiber connection and testmy.net said it was 5mbps... what a piece of crap. There are two reasons FiOS is not listed as being significantly faster than Wildblue. One being that apparently testmy sucks at accurate results for truly fast connections. The other being that FiOS doesn't use proxies and compress data and skew the results.

As for latency, I have spent the last week doing significant amounts of work using rdp to connect to a remote server and using vSphere client from there. High latency makes things hell even though it works. Even a latency of 150ms is undesirable. This is just one of many examples where latency does not affect only games.


DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28

said by silbaco:

Testmy.net is about as good of a source as yahoo answers...I have spent the last week doing significant amounts of work.

Silbaco, what was design parameters of Wildblue/Exede? Was it advertised for commercial, with a faster connection than landline ISPs? Satellite will always have a longer latency than most all landline ISPs...that's physics. But, when you compare today's speed/latency with previous satellite providers, there has been an improvement.

You want to talk the talk, without an understanding, well, why haven't you moved to Kansas City? You know, Google’s roll-out of gigabit fiber service: »stopthecap.com/2012/10/09/kansas···asier%22

I mean Jesus, without Gigabit service, your provider sucks, right? Is that REAL Internet, as you would say?

Here is a quick overview on speed tests: »Re: speed test vs actual speed

And also here: »Verizon Online FiOS FAQ »Where can I test the speed of my FiOS service?

If you can only get 3 mbps, and others can get 15 mbps, there must be something wrong with your provider/router/etc. Go talk to testmy.

Like I said, move to Alaska...who knows, you might switch from a poor DSL to Exede.

I'm not impressed with your gibberish...its shows one can not sort out apples from oranges; waiting several seconds for a web page to load is no big deal...waiting for a slight pause when using VOIP, is no big deal. VPN service is much better on Exede...but, if you want commerical speeds, then move to Kansas City now; anything slower than a Gigabit must suck, right?

One has not examined the tech that goes into Exede...laws of physics can't be changed, but Exede's servers are state of the art, and very quick.

silbaco
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join:2009-08-03
USA

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said by DrStrangLov:

Silbaco, what was design parameters of Wildblue/Exede? Was it advertised for commercial, with a faster connection than landline ISPs? Satellite will always have a longer latency than most all landline ISPs...that's physics. But, when you compare today's speed/latency with previous satellite providers, there has been an improvement.

I did not say satellites shouldn't have a high latency. Of course they do. Obviously a satellite service will have a high latency. You are just determined that only affects gamers which is untrue.

I would like to see how well Exede works for something like I have been doing recently. The latency would definitely be an issue, but the connection would have solid speeds.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28

said by silbaco:

Obviously a satellite service will have a high latency.

If you compared all land based ISPs to Exede (ViaSat-1 + Servers), Exede outperforms most all of them; those AcceleNet Servers are using "fingers" with some 60 mbps or so capacity, and can fetch web pages, and other web stuff extremely fast.

In most all cases land based users are doing the fetching, and in reality, it is a slower process when compared to AcceleNet Servers.

VPN is extremely fast on Exede, its the laws of physics that slow down the process.

Exede's technology is first class state of the art...and compared to most land based ISPs, a better quality, with faster response times.

Again, its the physics, not Exede.

Exede has no plans of implementing DAMA, and in fact, is testing VOIP, and plans to offer this option for resale.

Wildblue, on the other hand, is a slower system; all your fetching was done at Gateway. Previous consumer based satellite systems are slower than Exede, PERIOD.

silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

When it comes to loading webpages, Exede does a pretty good job. But there are countless things that AccelNet cannot help with. VPNs might function okay on Exede, depending on what you do with them. But I know every high latency connection I have used, be it satellite or an extremely congested DSL/cable line, connecting remotely to a machine does not work so well. Especially when you do something particularly graphic intensive on the other end.

The project I am working on now and on and off for the foreseeable future performs optimally on at least 5mbps connection with a latency of ~60ms or lower. Anything that doesn't meet both of those requirements will still work, but productivity takes a hit. I don't have a connection at home that meets those requirements. It is not only noticeable, it is downright annoying.


DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28

said by silbaco:

graphic intensive on the other end...performs optimally on at least 5mbps connection with a latency of ~60ms or lower.

Linux performs much better than MicroSlow...

Chances are, many of these VPN like programs are fat bandwidth hogs that have not been dieting, like Linux does.

In other words, these programers have taken the easy path, which bloats programs, and pigs out on bandwidth.

Since programmers have no mandate to conserve bytes, then most all could care less about how much is transmitted over internet.