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Re: [NV] Cox speed vs competition vs cost (Cox is slow)

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Just got the confirmation that Cox is raising prices on the 15th. As if the price of "too much" wasn't enough as it is. I'm definitely dropping TV for cox. I'm out....and as soon as I find a competitive offer for internet, I am out of that as well.

Also, no guarantee of speed upgrades....just a price hike.

Your argument has no wait to me. Just because there isn't a good competitor *yet* in Vegas, doesn't mean it fully justifies Cox's actions of ripping people off. I used to swear by them when they were fair and always pushing ahead. Now they don't care...they squat and it keep increasing the price even though they are already making a fortune with their over-priced services.

Also, once again I have yet to be throttled in any way on my cellphone. I am constantly streaming both audio and video all the time and have gone over 3gigs a number of times thus far and haven't had my connection throttled.

I hear nothing but excuses. As a people we fight more among each other than against the cause. Just like the government. We spend more time arguing and bickering with each other about something we don't agree with than we do actually doing something about. I personally would rather do something about it. Take action.

So therefore, instead of simply complaining about what I don't agree with, I am also taking action. I have voiced my opinion and have started to drop service. After discussing it with my brother he has done the same both for his house and is canceling TV at the office (going with online services instead). My parents are talking about canceling at their house as well since they mostly watch movies and rarely TV, so there is no point for them to pay more than top dollar for something they don't hardly use. So far a friend has also considered it and I am sure there will be more.

If you mistreat your customers, you will lose customers. As for you, if you prefer to spend all your time debating me in their defense, well then more power to you. You are nothing more than a mere tool to the system and obviously have no issue with giving away everything you earn for little value and have little care towards standing up for yourself. (no offense is intended...simply trying to point out reality).

Nothing will ever be cone about anything unless everyone stands together and says "enough".

reply to jh20001
So your main gripe w/Cox is upload speed? I'll agree with that. A 10:1 down/up ratio is a joke.

It's currently impossible in my area to get anything higher than 5.5mbps uploads, and that would cost you a little over $100/mo after fees and taxes. The odd part is to get 5.0(max) upload on a business plan would run about $400/mo, and you can't even get 5.5 with business plans at all.

To be honest, just for having the nerve to ask for more, I think they should be forced into an upgrade. Not only that but penalized and forced to offer a 2-1 ratio instead of a 10-1.

If enough people stand up to them something could be done about it. The question comes down to what is the best way of doing it? Petitions won't get us anywhere.......so mass cancellation....class action even if enough data can be acquired (...classifying the their practices as acts of corporate-level extortion). With enough mind power, a solution can be found.

Enough of milking the consumers. How are we to ever evolve at the speed we are capable of if we allow the headliners of such technology to drag the process for as long as possible so that they can maximize profits despite the outcome. Meanwhile we fall behind and contribute to an unbalanced economy. At this rate...*mediocre* cable will only be available to those who can afford an expensive kick.

We also really need more competition. More companies like Google who are willing to put a fork in the madness and force businesses to move ahead with the times.

I agree! I would love to see a poll between ISP's in USA based on their cost per MB for upload speed

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'Tis the season to drop services to keep my bill under $200.
with the nfl season winding down it makes it really easy to cut the cord.
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It's official. The prices have been raised. Given only by 3-4 dollars (as far as I can see at the moment), but in exchange they have lost more. It's time someone does something about it. So far I've canceled TV at home as well as my parents house (they had no problem jumping on board). My brother canceled TV as well with Cox as well as two friends who canceled their TV as well. TV has also been canceled at the office as well as plans to move connectivity to Cox. More people are talking about canceling TV but I have no updates on them at the moment so I don't know yet if they went through with it. I do have one other specific friend who just purchased a home and immediately threw up an antenna because they didn't want to deal with it (they have Cox at their old place). They already gave up on Cox before hand though as it was a few months ago.

I'm doing something!
I just added 2 hd-dvr to power my new 80" Sharp tv and my old 55" plasma.. Going to add another ultimate cable modem service because 50mbps sux and I'm impatient.

lol...that's not doing anything. I just spoke with a number of other family members cutting back here and there on their services. Also someone wrote to one of our politicians and had a bunch of people sign it.

Sure it is. I will use the additional bandwidth to make even more money to offset COX raising the rates by $4.

Maybe I misunderstand, but it sounds like your trying to counter the increase in cost by buying additional services (unless of course the HD-DVR's are third party and you don't have Cox running to those sets...but then it would render the DVR's useless and you'd be better off having a roku box in place of cox).

Just got off the phone with Cox about my node issues, looks like the speed upgrades are hitting Jan 31st. Premiere is going to 50/10 and ultimate is going to 150/20

I finally just got someone to say something as well and similar but they claimed premiere is going to 50/20 (which I would approve of as 50/10 is still a 5-1 ratio which is horrible). Sounds as though Cox also suffers from proper internal communication. 50 is an acceptable upgrade for downstream. Upstream at 10 though is still very poorly outdated compared to what we are capable of doing "today" in technology. Which means they would still be trying to milk it as much as possible.

50 is great...but anything today that requires interaction via connectivity also relies on upstream just as much.

Examples:
- video communication (especially including multiple parties)
- video surveillance (both individual and full grid monitoring)
- upcoming technologies in gaming with this years new Xbox and PS
- upcoming technologies in video resolution...including 4K and eventually 8K (which requires a LOT more bandwidth than 50mbit/s based on the latest demonstration one of the companies did of it claiming it required a 380mbit downstream for 8k streaming)
- continuously increasing popularity in cloud activity (especially data backups)
- constant enhancements to online streaming (the size of the stream to bring better quality to both picture and sound)

And of course, multi-tasking between any of the above while performing your already everyday online activities throughout your house (web browsing, netflix, pandora, whatever).

Every day we dive deeper into the digital age, and the depth of the dive increases each time as we move quicker and quicker through the technological evolution. We have to be able to keep up with that when it comes to the mutual technology that is required (and already fully possible to accomplish with todays level of capabilities in that mutual tech) to take advantage of any of the rest.

Naturally the examples I gave are just a fraction of things available today and things to come (shortly).

Either companies like Cox who like to squat to make extra cash are going to tough up and catch up, or more pro-tomorrow companies like Google are going to steal the spotlight and those other (as I mentioned in my initial post) companies (ie Cox) will find them a nice cozy spot next to companies like Hostess in the unemployment lines.

If we want to accomplish great things in our life time, constantly pushing to accomplish greater as each day goes by, we need to push for tomorrow. Else the technological evolution will be dragged out by a handful of companies which will only weigh done the process of others who really try to reach for the limits, and our lifetime-evolution will be minimal and we will be stealing the experience from our next of kin.

Agreed Cox needs to step it up or bring their pricing inline with their service offering, but without competition to force their hand I dont think we will see much. On the other hand 10mb up is much better than the crappy 2mb we currently have.

Yes but it's the people's willingness to just give up and accept it as "it is what it is" that does nothing but feed their intentions.

Same thing goes for politics. The people have so much more power than they think but they allow politicians to step all over them either because they don't know they can do something about it or because they simply just take it (as "it is what it is" and fighting it requires effort).

Yes 10 is better than 2 but what is 10 when we have the tech that makes 10 look like entry level dsl. Heck, we have the tech that makes 10 look like dial-up AOL or slower...but at the moment it isn't feasible to demand as it would require a massive upgrade in Cox's system (requiring a lot of money as well as special privileges from authorities in some cases).

Web/Internet 2.0 used mostly by military dominates the current speeds we see today and they are already working on the conceptual drafts of 3.0 where they said data and processing speeds will allow technology to discover things we could only dream about...before we can even plan for it as humans. From the many discoveries in quantum computing to the recent research of data teleportation. We have so many future technologies brewing and we have barely touched what we already have available to us.

Honestly, even the speed increase that they told me about does not do me any damn good with this low ball cap, just means I will hit the cap that much faster.