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|reply to urbanriot |
Re: [WIN8] With Sinofsky Gone, Start Menu Could Return to Window
If you add the desktop toolbar to the taskbar, all your desktop icons and folders are listed in a vertical menu, with flyouts for sub-menus along with:
*My Docs (under %Username% Files)
Right-clicking/tapping on the mini start-menu in the bottom left of the desktop adds:
*Programs and Features
*Command Prompt (Admin)
This is far more functionality that the pre Win8 Start Menu.
Most users use the Start Menu only to shutdown. Every other function is done either by desktop shortcuts, browser links or responding to system prompts.
Sinofsky is right about removing the Start Menu in that Windows 8 is a necessary interim step to eliminating the desktop altogether in favor of the modern UI. A task master like Sinofsky often doesn't fit in after the job (Windows 7/8 rollout) is done - managing a steady-state operation requires a different skillset that taskmasters usually can't adapt to. That's why he was let go...his time was up.
Convergence between mobile and fixed devices, an irreversible trend, means that a UI has to be a consistent experience cross-platform. It isn't now, by market share the vast majority of users have different UI and experience on their mobile device than they do on their fixed device; and they certainly have not had a problem adapting to it. They'll get used to the Windows 8 interface as well.
Microsoft is the only company that can leverage its installed Windows base, XBox console, WindowsPhone and Surface tablets with a common user experience. No other company has that breadth of consumer penetration. That's why Windows 8 and the modern UI is the right way to go.
Logic requires one to deal with decisions that one's ego will not permit.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke.
What then about those of us who have NO mobile devices and plan to never have any? I have no need of Windows on a mobile device. I have a desktop computer that I use at home. That is the only place I wish to use the internet or anything else like Office or other applications. So, you feel I should not be able to do that? That's crazy. Some people work from their home (a blessed thing if you are that lucky), some people are elderly and choose to not run around town constantly, and others cannot do that because of physical limitations as they age...should they not be able to use a computer because desktops disappear and only what works on a tiny cell phone that they have zero use for is forced on the desktop user? That's simply crazy.
Trying your tricks, adding Desktop toolbar gives me, IN THE WRONG LOCATION, a NON bolded popup menu. I can't read it except with difficulty...faint text and I haven't gone in the registry yet to force Windows to use readable Verdana font instead of the very difficult to read MS Segue font. All my other menus are bolded ...why doesn't the Desktop toolbar one bold?
Your other trick is almost impossible to do because it is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to get that bunch of tight little tiles that you can barely see to appear in the bottom left corner and if you can FINALLY get them to appear they disappear almost INSTANTLY and then they will not appear again for many minutes or hours. So, you do not have time to right click there before the tiny tiles disappear. That is of no use unless you can tell me how to have that group of tiny tiles appear permanently in the lower left corner. Why do they disappear anyway? I hate stuff that comes and goes. It should be there permanently or not there at all.
As for using the Start menu to shut down...who shuts down a computer? I never shut down a computer unless going on vacation (where I take no computer because the point of a vacation is to get away from the house and from computers). So, I don't use the Start menu to shut down on any version of Windows. The start menu is for all navigation not for shutting down! Any other navigation of Windows should be done in Explorer tree as that is what Explorer is for (after unhiding all hidden files of course). I have no idea how to shut this new computer down as I have no need to learn where to do that as I am not planning a vacation anytime soon.
When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
Making the start flag appear is not hard.
|reply to digitalfutur |
said by digitalfutur:That's a good point but I feel it's an irrelevant point as it presumes that every single person that uses a Windows PC will also be using a Windows Phone and a Windows Tablet when that's not at all the case now and quite frankly, people function just fine with an Android Phone, Apple iPad and Windows PC.
Convergence between mobile and fixed devices, an irreversible trend, means that a UI has to be a consistent experience cross-platform.
What we're experiencing here is a disruption to majority user satisfaction in an attempt to homogenize an experience that doesn't need it, to force people to use the environment they feel is best on all devices at the expense of what's better on each device.
I want to run the most usable PC operating system... on my PC. I don't want to run the 'jack of all trades' operating system on my PC.