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SuperNet
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outlet with no ground outside, ok for xmas lights?

I have a outlet with no ground outside, is it ok if I put Christmas lights on it? or is that a bad idea?
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Hall
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Look at the plug on your lights. Odds are it's a 2-prong plug.


SuperNet
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said by Hall:

Look at the plug on your lights. Odds are it's a 2-prong plug.

They are but I don't want a fire to start or anything, If it snows and the flap is open to the outlets and there is no ground, can't I get shocked?

Side question,
Can I protect the outlet from getting snow on it?
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Gord

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Considering any christmas lights I've seen only use a 2 prong plug they are never grounded anyway. I have also used the light socket to plug adapter and they also have no ground.


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Install a GFCI receptacle and an "in-use" cover. Less than $20 and 15 minutes.

»www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ··· angId=-1
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SuperNet
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said by nunya:

Install a GFCI receptacle and an "in-use" cover. Less than $20 and 15 minutes.

»www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ··· angId=-1

That's a good idea but doesn't the GFCI need a ground wire? There isn't one (i know bad idea, but next year project to update that)
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said by SuperNet:

doesn't the GFCI need a ground wire?

No it doesn't. It will trip when it detects an unbalanced load between hot and neutral.


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No. No ground wire is needed for GFCI. Just install the sticker than says "no equipment ground".
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Agree with above, replace the outlet with a GFCI. It will offer the protection you're looking for.

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Install the cover that nunya recommends and then add one of these two wire GFCI's. That way you will not have to replace the outlet only the cover:

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That thing isn't gonna fit inside that cover properly and allow you to plug in a drop cord (or anything).

Also, more expensive than a GFCI outlet.


SuperNet
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Thanks everyone... Also a side note, are Christmas lights Ok to touch siding or will it burn/discolor it?
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Bob4
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Get LED lights. The power is so low, they stay cool and you can just leave them on 24/7 for weeks at a time.


alkizmo

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said by SuperNet:

Thanks everyone... Also a side note, are Christmas lights Ok to touch siding or will it burn/discolor it?

You'll be fine as long as they don't touch that pipe in your dryer vent.


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I've never seen any christmas lights sold that have a ground prong so why would you need a outlet with a ground for christmas light?

Now the orange cords we use to get the power to the christmas lights have ground prongs, in this case I would just get some 3 to 2 adapters.
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Bob4
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said by TheTechGuru:

Now the orange cords we use to get the power to the christmas lights have ground prongs, in this case I would just get some 3 to 2 adapters.

That's what I had to do. And the Christmas lights don't have polarized sockets, so I had to clip-off part of the wide prong.


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said by TheTechGuru:

Now the orange cords we use to get the power to the christmas lights have ground prongs, in this case I would just get some 3 to 2 adapters.

Why get 3 to 2 adapters? Why not just plug in and leave the ground not connected. That is how I have always done it.
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said by SychoSly:

said by TheTechGuru:

Now the orange cords we use to get the power to the christmas lights have ground prongs, in this case I would just get some 3 to 2 adapters.

Why get 3 to 2 adapters? Why not just plug in and leave the ground not connected. That is how I have always done it.

Because a 3 prong orange cord will not plug into a 2 prong outlet. Unless you are some cartoon character not subject to the laws of physics.


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Those cheater adapters are dangerous. Most of the time there is no acceptable ground at the box, or the receptacle would have one by now.
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robbin
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Good reason to buy 2 conductor cables which don't have the ground at all.

Bob4
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I needed the adapter because the 3-prong extension cord would not plug in to the tail end of another 2-wire light string.

robbin
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This brings up another issue. I don't think you are supposed to plug anything but anther string of lights into a light string.


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reply to nunya
said by nunya:

Those cheater adapters are dangerous.

No more dangerous than the two prong sockets that are in place already. (as long as you don't plug anything in that is expecting the ground to be connected)


nunya
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They give people a false sense of security, which is far more dangerous than a 2 prong plug used properly.
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