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Krisnatharok
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What's your long-term upgrade path?

With Star Citizen coming out around November 2014, I am starting to plan out my upgrade path a little more carefully this time around.

Here's what I have now: i7-920 CPU, x58 mobo w/SATA+USB II, 24 GB 1333 ram, 120 GB SSD, Radeon 7970 3GB.

Spring-Summer 2013: complete a rebuild:
• Haswell CPU, preferably the 100w TDP/unlocked one
• EVGA, Asrock, or ASUS mobo
• ~16GB of ram (32 if affordable to go 4x 8GB), probably will use GSkill ram, slightly OC'd depending on Haswell specs
• Will also upgrade my SSD to a minimum 256GB--maybe 512 GB--size
• Sorely tempted by a Rosewill case/PSU this time around

November 2013: at this point, if I haven't already gotten a second 7970, I will try to find another one to go Crossfire.

November 2014: If I didn't upgrade my GPU in 2013, I will grab two of the _870s of whatever current gen and go Crossfire at this point, just in time for Star Citizen.

So what's YOUR upgrade path?
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Jobbie
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Bookmarking this for my input.

Damn you KrisN you got me working on my next build already.
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Dissembled

join:2008-01-23
Indianapolis, IN

reply to Krisnatharok
Funny because if you look up in that thread far enough, you'll see I made the same comment.

I doubt it will be much of a "path" for me. I will wait until mid 2014 and make all of my decisions then because who knows what will happen with tech and prices by then.

I do think I will keep my Antec case, PSU, and monitor/keyboard. That pretty much just leaves me with a mobo, CPU, RAM and SSD drive to get to get the next one built.

2 years is a long time to be speculating about what we will be putting in our rigs, but that's just my 2 cents worth.



Gordo74
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join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA

reply to Krisnatharok
Right now I have:

2500k @ 4.2Ghz
16GB (4x4) DDR3 1600
2 x 64 GB C300 (One for Windows, One for OSX)
1TB Samsung HDD
ATI 5870
Antec 620w PSU
Fractal Design R3

Next upgrade cycle - all new tower)

ITX Mobo
Haswell CPU (4 core, 8 thread, unlocked)
32GB RAM
~512GB SSD for OSX
~128GB SSD for Windows
Nvidia 2GB 660Ti (or around $275 price point at the buying point)
Fully modular Gold or Platinum low noise PSU
Fractal low noise small case (Node 304)
Hopefully fully watercooled (2 Corsair H60's - one for CPU and one for GPU)



Archivis
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Earth
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reply to Krisnatharok
You're probably better off getting 2x 256GB SSDs than getting a single 512GB. It's probably cheaper and you can set them up in a Raid 0 for additional read/write speeds.

As always, you should consider a decent back-up solution for your data.
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Krisnatharok
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RAID 0 on SSDs isn't a great idea. RAID has its own finicky-ness to it, and backing up is ABSOLUTELY necessary, even with MHDDs (thank God for Acronis).

That said, SSDs are already so fast that for the everyday user/gamer, RAID speeds are probably imperceptible.

I have no idea what SSD prices will be in 5-8 months, but my analysis of prices today are attached.

Right now, the absolute best bang-for-buck is the Crucial M4 512GB for $390 ($0.76 per GB). The most expensive option, oddly enough, is the Crucial M4 256GB for $209 ($1.22 per GB).

The color shading in the first table is limited to each size range (120/128GB, 240/256GB, and 480/512GB). In the second table ($/GB), the weighting is common across all three sizes to ascertain which SSD is the best buy.

I predict that in the next half-year, prices in the smallest tier (120/128GB) will stay the same or increase slightly, and prices in the middle and large tiers will fall, as the middle tier becomes the go-to place for most purchasers, and fab costs continue to go down.
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Archivis
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You may not do an actual Raid 0. The term takes on different meanings depending on where you actually manage the raid setup. You could tell Windows to set up a striped partition or whatever the hell it calls it and it would effectively be the same thing.
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Krisnatharok
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(0 is striped) TRIM under RAID is finally enabled with the newest chipsets, I don't know if RAID 1 would cause excessive writes on the second, SSD, either.

Having done motherboard-based RAID 0 for the past 4 years, I would be happy to just avoid RAID entirely in my next setup. I feel like my data is on life support should the mobo ever crap out, and I am limited to getting exactly the same model of mobo to even have a chance in recovering my data...

All that can be solved with a 512 GB SSD + 2 TB data drive.
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Archivis
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And the read/writes on a 512GB is probably wicked fast anyways.



Krisnatharok
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Yup. It will be easier to keep a half-terabyte SSD more than 50% free to ensure reads/writes are kept at their maximum.

It's pretty pathetic, my 120GB only ever has 20-30GB free at any time.
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Gordo74
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reply to Krisnatharok
I would go 512GB for simplicity sake and the read write speeds are in the 500's anyhow.

Newegg right now has the Samsung 840 500GB for $300. They are dropping in price for sure.

I wouldn't want RAID because it introduced unnecessary risk due to if one dies, they both die.

I have a 8TB RAID5 (6TB usable) for backups. I'm a-okay on that front



Krisnatharok
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SSD Cost Analysis_corrected Samsung 500 GB
said by Gordo74:

Newegg right now has the Samsung 840 500GB for $300. They are dropping in price for sure.

My bad, I went with the 830s in my link because they were much cheaper than the 840 "Pros" at the lower level.

There is indeed an 840 500GB for $320, unfortunately it is sold out: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···ng%20840

That makes the Samsung 840 the most affordable SSD by far, at a crazy $0.64/GB.

An updated spreadsheet has been attached.
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DarkLogix
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Baytown, TX
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reply to Krisnatharok
I upgrade when two conditions are met

1. system is 3 years old

2. something dies on it that replacing with whats available would cause a downgrade.

or path B

coolness beats out logic.

path B is gaining steam.



Dream Killer
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Forest Hills, NY
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said by DarkLogix:

I upgrade when two conditions are met

1. system is 3 years old

2. something dies on it that replacing with whats available would cause a downgrade.

or path B

coolness beats out logic.

path B is gaining steam.

i also follow this system. i usually go all out in buying the best stuff and i'll use it for 3-4 years. rinse, repeat.


DarkLogix
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Yep, go all out, to get the most awesome system I can then in 3-4 years its often still good enough so it comes down to if anything breaks or the new stuff is just that much more awesome.



Dream Killer
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reply to Krisnatharok
i understand upgrading video cards but is there any reason to buy a newer cpu now? i camped out newegg the eve the bloomfield 920 came out back in 2008 and i still feel it's plenty powerful today.

in the 4 years i've had this cpu i never once went "hmm, maybe i should get a faster cpu".


me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

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reply to Krisnatharok
I've got a 2500k @4.5ghz and 8GB of ram, may get some more ram not sure.

I just upgraded to a 7950, having a bit of trouble finding a stable overclock but at the stock speeds gigabyte sent it at(900/1250) it beats an overclocked 580. So I figure that should last me a couple years(nov 2014), before I *have* to overclock it, but more likely I'll just get a new 8XX or 9XXX gpu

then on 2016, maybe 2015 depending on how cpus progress and how much I need pcie 3.0, I'll get new ram and cpu/mobo.

New psu, eh it'll take a while I've got a 750 80+ bronze right now it works fine.

my haf 932 will stay until I need something else.

Gonna try to get a 1TB internal hdd for storage soon.

May get a Noctua NH-D14 when I get a new cpu/mobo

EDIT: I also just got a 1650x1050 monitor. Love it.


me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

reply to Dream Killer
4-5 years is a good time to upgrade a cpu. Maybe when haswell comes out.



s1deout
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Troy, OH
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reply to Krisnatharok
Current rig:

Core i5-3750K
Asrock Z77 Motherboard
Cool-IT Closed Loop CPU Cooler
Coolermaster Scout Case
8G Gskill RAM
Plextor 120G SSD Boot
Seagate 750G Data drive
Nvidia GTX 560TI 1G
Lian Li Modular 850Watt PS
24" LG LCD Monitor

Nov / Dec 2012
Just picked up an LG 27" LED monitor from Best buy for $198.

2013
Will upgrade RAM to 16G - Gskill
Probably upgrade video card as well try to stay close to current gen Nvidia.
Upgrade Power supply as same time - going full modular as well like current PS.

2014
CPU / Motherboard upgrade - will stick with Asrock and Intel
Closed Loop cooling upgrade as well.

Every time I upgrade I flow down my parts to the family.



McBrain
BRB Face Melting

join:2010-05-06
Kalimdor
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reply to Krisnatharok
It looks like I'll be heading to Okinawa unaccompanied shortly after the new year. Being an old married dad this time around means that instead of buying women and booze I'll more than likely be spending what little excess cash I've got on a less destructive hobby, like my computer.

Considering that I just built my computer, I'll probably salvage a good bit of its parts, especially the ones that don't become obsolete as fast (dvd drive, case, SSD, etc).

I will definitely be upgrading my mother board and CPU, more than likely to Intel. I'll more than likely end up with an i7-3770k or its equivalent at the time.

I'll probably go with an ASRock or ASUS mother board. Either the OC Z77 Formula from ASRock, or the Z77 Sabertooth from ASUS.

I'd also like to get another MSI Hawk 7870 Ghz Edition to marry up with the one I've got now. It'll make my 3x1 Eyefinity setup perform much better.

All said, it's about $1200-$1300 in upgrades, depending on market price when I start collecting the parts. It'll probably be something that takes me the entire two years I'm there to complete...but once it's done, it'll be awesome.
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Name's Ash...Housewares.


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