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tuladrin

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AMD vs I-core

Which do you prefer as the main CPU and/or which is best? Is I-core3 = AMD A4, I-core 5 = AMD a6 and so on?Black friday almost here, have new computer narrowed to a few, given that the best deals are not going to be pure gaming rigs, will probably buy seperate video card, but want the best cpu I can buy


Jobbie
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Wrong forum:

»PC gaming Tech

I went with an AMD Phenom 1100T and I love it to pieces, easy oeverclock nice temps and gaming performance, now that I am away from home I went with an i7 laptop and could not be happier.
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Snuffbox
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reply to tuladrin
I prefer Intel.

Intel is best.

Compare Ghz, cores, not naming schemes.

Visit Tom'sHardware and compare AMD vs Intel for 3dMark and WoW.



McBrain
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Intel is definitely putting out superior architecture right now. But if you only use your computer for WoW, you probably won't notice much of a difference in a...let's say, AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black Edition with a slight overclock and an i5-2500 at stock settings...and the AMD is $100 cheaper.

Once you start using your rig to multi-task or perform more CPU intensive activities like media editing, Intel will blow AMD out of the water.

All in all, Intel is definitely on top of AMD at the moment...but most of us couldn't tell much of a difference in a high end AMD processor with a little tweaking and a stock mid-level Intel chip.
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JoelC707
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reply to tuladrin
Tomshardware did a lineup of various cards from both MD and Nvidia as well as compare them on an AMD and Intel setup. This was at the beginning of Cata though so many things have changed, both in terms of computer capabilities and WoW itself. Suffice it to say, WoW is CPU bound on AMD CPUs. The best they could get out of ANY video card on an AMD platform was ~60 FPS whereas the same cards on an Intel platform would push over 100 depending on the video card used.

Can you live with 60 FPS? Most likely. Newer AMD offerings may even increase this "limitation" but Intel is still likely your best bet. I have always liked AMD, and the fact they tend to be much cheaper than Intel never hurts. That said, when I built my new computers, I went with an Ivy Bridge i5 setup.

The integrated GPU found in AMD and Intel CPUs is generally as good as a low end standalone GPU (probably wouldn't compare it to something more than a $100 GPU). If you get a standalone video card, look for something over the $100 mark otherwise I would just use the integrated GPU and upgrade if and when you need to later.



Krisnatharok
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reply to tuladrin

said by tuladrin :

Which do you prefer as the main CPU and/or which is best? Is I-core3 = AMD A4, I-core 5 = AMD a6 and so on?Black friday almost here, have new computer narrowed to a few, given that the best deals are not going to be pure gaming rigs, will probably buy seperate video card, but want the best cpu I can buy

It's "Intel" not "I-core".

The comparison is laughable at best.

In layman's terms, just stick to Intel if you are comparing current gen vs. current gen.

AMD took a step back from Phenom chips to Bulldozer, and has just now recovered their lost ground with Piledriver.

Intel, which was already ahead in the high-end arena, has since expanded its gains in the same timeframe to the mid-and-low-end markets with Sandy Bridge, and now, Ivy Bridge.

As of now, Intel beats AMD at every single price point. That could change in the future, but it won't for the next year to 18 months.
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BonezX
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reply to McBrain

said by McBrain:

Intel is definitely putting out superior architecture right now. But if you only use your computer for WoW, you probably won't notice much of a difference in a...let's say, AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black Edition with a slight overclock and an i5-2500 at stock settings...and the AMD is $100 cheaper.

Once you start using your rig to multi-task or perform more CPU intensive activities like media editing, Intel will blow AMD out of the water.

All in all, Intel is definitely on top of AMD at the moment...but most of us couldn't tell much of a difference in a high end AMD processor with a little tweaking and a stock mid-level Intel chip.

even with editing and multi-threaded stuff, it's still hit or miss.


Dissembled

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reply to tuladrin

said by tuladrin :

will probably buy seperate video card, but want the best cpu I can buy

If that's all you want to know, the answer is real simple. Intel's top i7 CPU.

If you actually have a budget and want to factor in what all exactly you'll be doing with the machine, other answers may come into play.


Krisnatharok
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said by tuladrin :

but want the best cpu I can buy

You know what they say about a fool and his money.


McBrain
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said by Krisnatharok:

said by tuladrin :

but want the best cpu I can buy

You know what they say about a fool and his money.

Here you go:»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···19116877

Have at it...Having this processor on a computer used mainly for playing World of Warcraft is similar to using the nuclear reactor of the USS George Bush to cook your ramen noodles.
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Krisnatharok
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No no, he needs TWO of them, and a dual socket LGA2011 board!



I AM
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I went AMD instead of Intel and wish I would have went with Intel. Apart from games a lot of other programs seem to work better with Intel.



Krisnatharok
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If it was a Phenom II prior to Sandy Bridge, that wasn't a bad choice.

It would take a lot to find an AMD fanboy still willing to argue that either Bulldozer or Piledriver are better than either Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge.
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A lot of developers seem to be writing programs to run with Intel. I had to do a few work arounds or updating my bios and other stuff to get some stuff to run right on an AMD.

I was thinking up switching over to Intel but I might as well wait for Haswell.


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reply to tuladrin
AMD is suffering a slide like Intel did during the P4 era. Though upside for AMD is they do not have to change their RAM to get back in the game. the P4 era is noted for the short lived but damaging mistake that was the inferior and overly expensive RAMBUS memory.
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reply to Krisnatharok

said by Krisnatharok:

If it was a Phenom II prior to Sandy Bridge, that wasn't a bad choice.

I love my Phenom II to bits, it was a placeholder for Bulldozer which i never got. It has worked awesome so far.

Next build I will go with Intel for sure.
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cpsycho

join:2008-06-03
HarperLand

reply to tuladrin
Firstly, are you buying a video card seperatly? If you are not, amd apu is a way better choice. If you are buying a video card go with an I 5. never go with a suggestion from someone that is not asking you questions first.



McBrain
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reply to tuladrin
If you live near a microcenter, this is the CPU you should buy.

»microcenter.com/product/354589/C···rocessor

Epic deal.
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CylonRed
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I would love to know what programs those are as both CPUs follow the same standards. I have been running AMD for years and not had to tinker with any programs to get them to work 'right'.
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Octavean
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reply to McBrain

said by McBrain:

If you live near a microcenter, this is the CPU you should buy.

»microcenter.com/product/354589/C···rocessor

Epic deal.

Microcenter actually had a limited offer where they were selling the Core i5 2500K for ~$99.99. That’s right, less then ~$100 USD.

BTW, I have an Intel Core i7 3930K and really like it. Microcenter is selling the 3930K now for ~$399.99 which is ~$100 less then Newegg now at ~$499.99. The 6 core 12 thread Core i7 3930K hit the market at ~$650 USD if I recall correctly.

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