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funny0

join:2010-12-22
reply to ohmer

Re: OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane?

i used to be help a reseller do tech support 24/7 inside 2 months i brought him 80 clients

funny0

join:2010-12-22
reply to Ree
said by Ree:

said by pfak:

After getting a server with them, I notice they give themselves root access on your machine by storing authorized_keys2 in ~/.ssh (at least on the Ubuntu Server image) and provide their own custom kernel that most likely has vulnerabilities.

They need those keys to help people that manage to lock themselves out of their server. You're free to remove them, but then you're on your own if you mess something up.

You're also free to install whatever kernel you want if you're worried about vulnerabilities in theirs.

agreed and i created images for all types a clients needs , and people thought we was miracle workers...once i had a prob that was new i'd fix that then create a auto upload sorta like a private sftp that could just pull stuff to a client...

to give you idea of the crazy stuff i can do i actually got rtorrent to work on windows xp with cygwin by changing the parsing in the makefile ....


ohmer

join:2003-08-06
Quebec, QC
kudos:1
reply to funny0
said by funny0:

so you all know they back door thee ssh keys
you can remove them but you wont get support either ( that is the excuse they use )
anyhow its like i said before you can get a US kimsufi for 9.99 that is unlimited 100 megabit

i have a friend give me access to a gigabit box....

i used ot help a friend build up a reseller business when i stopped helping it had in two months built up 80 clients...some even paying me more then we asked cause htey loved the 24/7 ability of service and solving of any problem ....

There is no Kimsufi in Canada for 9.99$ (only in France). And they are no longer 100mbps unlimited (max 5tb, 10mbps after)


pfak
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Vancouver, BC
reply to Guspaz
They have the most ridiculous network layout I've ever seen. Want you to assign IP addresses as /32 with a gateway on a different subnet.

My mind is full of f*ck! Going to try them out for three months and see how they are, then get their "virtual rack" and an ARIN block so that I don't have to deal with that mess.
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swintec
Premium,VIP
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:5
reply to Guspaz
crap...cant sign up as a customer in usa.


MineCoast
Premium
join:2004-10-06
127.0.0.1
said by swintec:

crap...cant sign up as a customer in usa.

Yes. You can. You have to signup at ovh.ie and they will require you to provide proof you live in the USA, such as a drivers licence, photo id, bill, etc. I live in Florida and am signed up with ovh.ie and do not pay any taxes (VCAT or whatever it's called)


swintec
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said by MineCoast:

said by swintec:

crap...cant sign up as a customer in usa.

Yes. You can. You have to signup at ovh.ie and they will require you to provide proof you live in the USA, such as a drivers licence, photo id, bill, etc. I live in Florida and am signed up with ovh.ie and do not pay any taxes (VCAT or whatever it's called)

Yes, I know that. That process turned me off to them and I abandoned the sale. Was hoping maybe once they launched somewhere in North America they would not require that type of authentication.
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MineCoast
Premium
join:2004-10-06
127.0.0.1
reply to danry25
said by danry25:

If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to find out who all are you colocating with & how many rack units and amps your using. Usually when I price out colocation it comes out to be much more expensive than just leasing a server.

I use a data center in Oak Tower. There are several data centers in the tower. The one I use is Joe's Data Center (Creative Name Eh?) I'm only renting a 4U slot (My server is a 1U) and is $49 a month for 1.5 TB Bandwidth on a Gigabit port.

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by MineCoast:

said by danry25:

If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to find out who all are you colocating with & how many rack units and amps your using. Usually when I price out colocation it comes out to be much more expensive than just leasing a server.

I use a data center in Oak Tower. There are several data centers in the tower. The one I use is Joe's Data Center (Creative Name Eh?) I'm only renting a 4U slot (My server is a 1U) and is $49 a month for 1.5 TB Bandwidth on a Gigabit port.

I assume you mean 1 Gigabit/Second of Bandwidth and 1.5TB of transfer usage.
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MineCoast
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join:2004-10-06
127.0.0.1
said by HeadSpinning:

said by MineCoast:

said by danry25:

If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to find out who all are you colocating with & how many rack units and amps your using. Usually when I price out colocation it comes out to be much more expensive than just leasing a server.

I use a data center in Oak Tower. There are several data centers in the tower. The one I use is Joe's Data Center (Creative Name Eh?) I'm only renting a 4U slot (My server is a 1U) and is $49 a month for 1.5 TB Bandwidth on a Gigabit port.

I assume you mean 1 Gigabit/Second of Bandwidth and 1.5TB of transfer usage.

Isn't that what I said?

HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5
said by MineCoast:

Isn't that what I said?

Nope. Bandwidth and transfer usage are not the same thing.

You said 1.5TB of Bandwidth. You have 1.5TB of transfer usage.
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julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
kudos:1
reply to Guspaz

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
Nice!

I'm not worried about the speed now, as the datacenter is almost empty at the moment, but what will happen when there will be many more users in the datacenter...

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?


MineCoast
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127.0.0.1
said by Cyborg994:

Nice!

I'm not worried about the speed now, as the datacenter is almost empty at the moment, but what will happen when there will be many more users in the datacenter...

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?

Yes, and I can assure you that the speeds are just as good, if not better (if using gigabit port)

Ree

join:2007-04-29
h0h0h0
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reply to Cyborg994
said by Cyborg994:

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?




My first test was 85/50, but I didn't think to copy the URL, and then I never tested that high again. Also not sure how accurate this is since the server is in France but I tested with a failover IP geolocated to Ireland, so that's where it tested against.

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
OK I'm ordering one this week This on will be for preprod, but I will definately look into moving other services from iweb if it works well.

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
Too bad they do not do colo...


creed3020
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join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
reply to Cyborg994
This OVH DC will be a major competitor to iWeb. They are probably quite nervous over there considering there is overlap in the market segment that they are marketing too.

julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
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reply to Cyborg994
said by Cyborg994:

Nice!

I'm not worried about the speed now, as the datacenter is almost empty at the moment, but what will happen when there will be many more users in the datacenter...

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?

I have the basic Kimsufi in Roubaix, France. Chip is a celeron 1.2ghz that can barely run Ubuntu 8.04. I'm switching to this one at 39.99$.

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
reply to creed3020
Yes definately iWeb will feel the heat, i'm getting their specials on facebook and their clearance special price is almost twice the price of a similar server with OVH.


Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to Guspaz
Barely run Ubuntu 8.04 on a Celeron 1.2?!? You're doing something wrong. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Pentium 3 with 384MB of RAM without any issues, and that's including both PHP and MySQL.
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pldube

join:2011-06-11
canada
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reply to Guspaz
From the CEO of OVH

"#Ovh "... Hope the french pricing / pages make it over to the English side ..." yes, it will be done in 7-10 days »OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane? …"

»twitter.com/olesovhcom/status/27···53146368

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to Cyborg994
said by Cyborg994:

Too bad they do not do colo...

Doh! I was getting my hopes up for nothing. :/


MineCoast
Premium
join:2004-10-06
127.0.0.1
said by 34764170:

said by Cyborg994:

Too bad they do not do colo...

Doh! I was getting my hopes up for nothing. :/

Check out »www.joesdatacenter.com or »www.wholesaleinternet.com or »www.datashack.net

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
They're not in Canada. If I wanted to colo in the US there are plenty of other options I'm already aware of.

julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
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reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:

Barely run Ubuntu 8.04 on a Celeron 1.2?!? You're doing something wrong. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Pentium 3 with 384MB of RAM without any issues, and that's including both PHP and MySQL.

It's running fine except when I use NX client for remote management and Ktorrent at the same time, it's definitely pumping 100% of the cpu. I tried 12.04 with x2go and it was definitely unusable (too slow).
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milnoc

join:2001-03-05
H3B
kudos:2
reply to 34764170

Re: OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane?

said by 34764170:

They're not in Canada. If I wanted to colo in the US there are plenty of other options I'm already aware of.

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.
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Guspaz
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said by milnoc:

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.

Fat lot of good that's done people in other countries who managed to step on the wrong American toes...
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hm

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said by Guspaz:

said by milnoc:

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.

Fat lot of good that's done people in other countries who managed to step on the wrong American toes...

In some situations it has done some good.

Let us take »boingboing.net/ as an example.

The site is based in Canada, on Canadian servers.

He got a DMCA from Ralph Lauren (more like a SLAPP imo, but a DMCA nonetheless):
»boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-cr···t-r.html

Last month, Xeni blogged about the photoshop disaster that is this Ralph Lauren advertisement, in which a model's proportions appear to have been altered to give her an impossibly skinny body ("Dude, her head's bigger than her pelvis"). Naturally, Xeni reproduced the ad in question. This is classic fair use: a reproduction "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting," etc.

However, Ralph Lauren's marketing arm and its law firm don't see it that way. According to them, this is an "infringing image," and they thoughtfully took the time to send a DMCA takedown notice to our awesome ISP, Canada's Priority Colo. One of the things that makes Priority Colo so awesome is that they don't automatically act on DMCA takedowns. Instead, they pass them on to us and we talk about whether they pass the giggle-test.

This one doesn't.

So, instead of responding to their legal threat by suppressing our criticism of their marketing images, we're gonna mock them. Hence this post.


So does it do any good for the average person? Yeah. Of course. We are under no obligation to take-down whatever garbage Americans toss at us under the pretense of a DMCA. So yes, it does do good.

A company like ISOhunt? Hmm so far so good. But I think we will be seeing something happen with this one soon enough under the new C-11.

Of course you have to chose a colo/company who isn't intimidated by pretend legal threats to shut people up under the pretense of an American DMCA...