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HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
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reply to MineCoast

Re: OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane?

said by MineCoast:

Isn't that what I said?

Nope. Bandwidth and transfer usage are not the same thing.

You said 1.5TB of Bandwidth. You have 1.5TB of transfer usage.
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julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
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reply to Guspaz


Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC

Nice!

I'm not worried about the speed now, as the datacenter is almost empty at the moment, but what will happen when there will be many more users in the datacenter...

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?



MineCoast
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127.0.0.1

said by Cyborg994:

Nice!

I'm not worried about the speed now, as the datacenter is almost empty at the moment, but what will happen when there will be many more users in the datacenter...

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?

Yes, and I can assure you that the speeds are just as good, if not better (if using gigabit port)

Ree

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reply to Cyborg994

said by Cyborg994:

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?




My first test was 85/50, but I didn't think to copy the URL, and then I never tested that high again. Also not sure how accurate this is since the server is in France but I tested with a failover IP geolocated to Ireland, so that's where it tested against.

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC

OK I'm ordering one this week This on will be for preprod, but I will definately look into moving other services from iweb if it works well.


Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC

Too bad they do not do colo...



creed3020
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Kitchener, ON
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reply to Cyborg994

This OVH DC will be a major competitor to iWeb. They are probably quite nervous over there considering there is overlap in the market segment that they are marketing too.


julienvf

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reply to Cyborg994

said by Cyborg994:

Nice!

I'm not worried about the speed now, as the datacenter is almost empty at the moment, but what will happen when there will be many more users in the datacenter...

Anyone has servers in their other existing datacenters and can comment?

I have the basic Kimsufi in Roubaix, France. Chip is a celeron 1.2ghz that can barely run Ubuntu 8.04. I'm switching to this one at 39.99$.

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
reply to creed3020

Yes definately iWeb will feel the heat, i'm getting their specials on facebook and their clearance special price is almost twice the price of a similar server with OVH.



Guspaz
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Barely run Ubuntu 8.04 on a Celeron 1.2?!? You're doing something wrong. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Pentium 3 with 384MB of RAM without any issues, and that's including both PHP and MySQL.
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pldube

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From the CEO of OVH

"#Ovh "... Hope the french pricing / pages make it over to the English side ..." yes, it will be done in 7-10 days »OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane? …"

»twitter.com/olesovhcom/status/27···53146368


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to Cyborg994

said by Cyborg994:

Too bad they do not do colo...

Doh! I was getting my hopes up for nothing. :/


MineCoast
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127.0.0.1

said by 34764170:

said by Cyborg994:

Too bad they do not do colo...

Doh! I was getting my hopes up for nothing. :/

Check out »www.joesdatacenter.com or »www.wholesaleinternet.com or »www.datashack.net

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

They're not in Canada. If I wanted to colo in the US there are plenty of other options I'm already aware of.

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said by Guspaz:

Barely run Ubuntu 8.04 on a Celeron 1.2?!? You're doing something wrong. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Pentium 3 with 384MB of RAM without any issues, and that's including both PHP and MySQL.

It's running fine except when I use NX client for remote management and Ktorrent at the same time, it's definitely pumping 100% of the cpu. I tried 12.04 with x2go and it was definitely unusable (too slow).
Expand your moderator at work


milnoc

join:2001-03-05
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reply to 34764170

Re: OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane?

said by 34764170:

They're not in Canada. If I wanted to colo in the US there are plenty of other options I'm already aware of.

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.
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Guspaz
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said by milnoc:

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.

Fat lot of good that's done people in other countries who managed to step on the wrong American toes...
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hm

@videotron.ca

said by Guspaz:

said by milnoc:

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.

Fat lot of good that's done people in other countries who managed to step on the wrong American toes...

In some situations it has done some good.

Let us take »boingboing.net/ as an example.

The site is based in Canada, on Canadian servers.

He got a DMCA from Ralph Lauren (more like a SLAPP imo, but a DMCA nonetheless):
»boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-cr···t-r.html

Last month, Xeni blogged about the photoshop disaster that is this Ralph Lauren advertisement, in which a model's proportions appear to have been altered to give her an impossibly skinny body ("Dude, her head's bigger than her pelvis"). Naturally, Xeni reproduced the ad in question. This is classic fair use: a reproduction "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting," etc.

However, Ralph Lauren's marketing arm and its law firm don't see it that way. According to them, this is an "infringing image," and they thoughtfully took the time to send a DMCA takedown notice to our awesome ISP, Canada's Priority Colo. One of the things that makes Priority Colo so awesome is that they don't automatically act on DMCA takedowns. Instead, they pass them on to us and we talk about whether they pass the giggle-test.

This one doesn't.

So, instead of responding to their legal threat by suppressing our criticism of their marketing images, we're gonna mock them. Hence this post.


So does it do any good for the average person? Yeah. Of course. We are under no obligation to take-down whatever garbage Americans toss at us under the pretense of a DMCA. So yes, it does do good.

A company like ISOhunt? Hmm so far so good. But I think we will be seeing something happen with this one soon enough under the new C-11.

Of course you have to chose a colo/company who isn't intimidated by pretend legal threats to shut people up under the pretense of an American DMCA...


milnoc

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The advantage we have in Canada is that infringement has to be at the very least clearly demonstrated before anything can be taken down.

Isohunt however is in a very grey area since, while they don't host the files listed in the Torrents, they do make it very easy for someone to retrieve these files by making available the torrent file itself, or in the case of The Pirate Bay, a magnet link.

Then again, so does Google. For example, Google "Skyfall Torrent", and many Torrent links show up, the first one being...

Isohunt.
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Guspaz
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Except boingboing.net is a .net address, which is managed by Verisign, which is a US company. That puts all of boingboing under US jurisdiction, inasmuch as a DMCA takedown to Verisign can get boingboing.net suspended.

They could move to a different domain, but this is just an example of how you can't really escape the US' grasp quite so simply.
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shrug

@videotron.ca

if this, if that, when it's this, when it's that..

Listen anyone can go after your domain instead of your site and where it's being served from. That even happened to Jon Newton over at p2pnet.net w/ godaddy during his lawsuit and when someone tried to take over his domain on BS.

There are possibilities for everything.

Teksavvy could go after you for libel and/or defamation and do the same thing to you here, instead of using a DMCA.

DMCA, in Canada, is the least of your worries.

Best not to have anything online if everything scares you away.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to milnoc

said by milnoc:

said by 34764170:

They're not in Canada. If I wanted to colo in the US there are plenty of other options I'm already aware of.

With the DMCA in the States, I would never consider colo there.

I have other reasons other than the DMCA for keeping my stuff here. One of them being better latency to my system. But in general I have no interest in putting anything in the US.


Guspaz
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Montreal, QC
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Looks like it's launched. Their English sites now have all the packages:

»www.ovh.com/ca/en/dedicated-servers/
»www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/

Also they're having an "end of the world" sale, 50% of the first month.
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creed3020
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Kitchener, ON
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I still can't get over those prices for the amount of base hardware in those systems. Their base amount of RAM and HDD space is well above the industry standard. Only specials/sales from other competitor get you into the same ballpark.


olesz

join:2007-02-19
Toronto, ON
reply to Guspaz

If anyone hasn't bought a server from OVH yet right now is looking like a good time to try it out.

They have a 50% off deal for the first month.

»www.ovh.com/us/apocalypse-deal/


Guru

join:2008-10-01
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Do we still have to provide proof of address?


Ree

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said by Guru:

Do we still have to provide proof of address?

I did at kimsufi.ie, but not at ovh.com/ca

Also ovh.com/ca allows PayPal, unlike kimsufi.ie!

Guru

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said by Ree:

said by Guru:

Do we still have to provide proof of address?

I did at kimsufi.ie, but not at ovh.com/ca

Also ovh.com/ca allows PayPal, unlike kimsufi.ie!

Good to know, thanks for the info!