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Re: OVH pricing at Montreal datacenter is... insane? Nevermind when your on ovh.ie, and the manager is in french even though you set it to english (witch actually doesnt work)
also at .ie because the atom ks boxes arent available |
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 c2rothPremium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2 | reply to Guspaz
Agreed. They could learn a thing or two from SoftLayer here. A first time visitor to their websites I left more confused than before I went to them. I don't believe that is the object of an website trying to sell your a service. |
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 jmckformerly 'shaded'
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON
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| I'm seeing terrible performance sending data from OVH to TSI at peak time. There's nothing too strange in the traceroute/mtr and I've opened a ticket with OVH and they started to look into it. I'm still trying to get the issue escalated at TSI but so far it's been stuck in first level support for a few days while they try and confirm it.
And by terrible, i mean 3-5Mbit/sec, off-peak it seems to be fine. It's also pretty much amazing to all my other users/customers off different ISPs (Rogers, Comcast, Start). For TSI/OVH the path is going through TorIX. |
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| OVH peers directly at Torix, and they have a weather map here:
»weathermap.ovh.net/usa
That may help you decide where the bottleneck is. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to Guspaz
TSI has been having performance issues at peak time in general, are you sure this is related to OVH rather than a TSI problem?
The issue at last report was that Bell was traffic-limiting TSI's AHSSPI links, causing them to become congested.
EDIT: OVH does seem to have congestion on some links, though. They've overloaded their Newark to Ashburn link, and their Palo Alto to KDDI link.
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jmckformerly 'shaded'
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON | being that I don't manage OVH or TSI's network, I have no real idea where the issue is. It's why I've escalated the issue to OVH and am trying to escalate it to TSI.
And ya, the weathermap doesn't show saturation at all. |
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You can get this at BHS
»www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/kim···tion.xml |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | That's still a european site, so doesn't really change much... It's still the situation of a sale at the North American datacenter that is only available on the European sites...
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said by Guspaz:I haven't seen anybody discuss this anywhere else (even WHT), but it seems that OVH's datacenter in Beauharnois is starting general availability. Confusingly, their French and English sites have completely different offerings. Looks like the English site is from the beta and the French site is the new one. Maybe they just haven't finished the English one yet?
Observe:
»www.ovh.com/ca/fr/
versus:
»www.ovh.com/ca/en/
Anyhow, I was looking at their pricing, and it made me do a spit take:
$39/dual core i3-2310/8GB RAM/2x1TB HDD/5TB transfer, after which 10mbit unmetered
$49/dual core i3-2310/16GB RAM/2x1TB HDD/5TB transfer, after which 10mbit unmetered
$59/quad core i5-3570S/16GB RAM/2x2TB HDD/1gbit unmetered in, 100mbit unmetered out
o_O That's basically $0.059 per megabit inbound or $0.59 per megabit outbound. They also have a server where you buy increments of 100 megabit for $129 per month, so that's a bit less insane.
So, umm, this is going to shake up the Canadian (and American) hosting markets something fierce... And it'll be interesting to see what sort of impact we get on general transit pricing in eastern Canada considering OVH must be getting providers to bring in hundreds or thousands of gigabits of transit to Montreal (this is to be the largest datacenter in the world with 360k servers when full).
EDIT: Regarding bandwidth, OVH has about 2 terabits of transit worldwide, they currently have 120k servers, the Montreal datacenter has a capacity of 360k servers, so assuming per-server bandwidth usage never changes (unlikely) eventually their Montreal datacenter would consume 6-8 terabits per second of transit. That's a lot of bandwidth to bring into Montreal...
EDIT: Or maybe not. They've currently deployed 100 gigabit DWDM equipment, so they can put up to 8.8 terabits on a single fibre strand. So no massive fibre build in Montreal, I guess :P
befor ei read all that let me ask you why on earth would i host with ovh with voltage trolls trying to harrass users...ovh is just as likely to slip stuff in and or monitor you....
ive resold for these guys and had 80 servers rented inside a 2 month period
and i htink that world wide they ahve more bandwidth then they claim....
2 terabits is 2000 gigabits or 2,000,000 megabits
thats 20000 - 100 megabit seedboxes right? well then you think of gigabit servers and possibly 100-200 of those going number seems low....but it wont be growing it will in fact decrease as time goes on and the noose tightens on file sharing...
it will get to point were we are back to the FXP era of just hacking in and taking or putting stuff in places and tax man and corporations get zero dollars....
enjoy
all this push to vpns will be a laugh when they make it law you have to hand over all your encryption keys...to authorities that seem bent on getting filesharing...
this is why you if your into all this get what you could to go on and live without all of it and know that in time and it wont take till the end of obama's reign of economic terror to become reality. |
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said by TigerLord:Currently paying 75$/month for something that is half as good.
Wow!
I'll be moving over there!
its in canada and if voltage wins this case against teksavvy you won't want to be putting a creditcard with you real name into renting anything in canada OR the usa.
if laws were more favourable i could bring them 80-100 clients paying me 15$ extra on top of there rates /month....
but im not bothering as i dont see serving and the isp business in canada or usa as neither stable or risk free. |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to Guspaz
This is amazing. Just ordered a dedicated server for $50. We can run VMs too! Easily as cheap as my current shared hosting but now I can directly manage it.
I still wonder how OVH can afford all this since they're undercutting all other providers. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to Guspaz
This has nothing to do with Voltage. Not everybody is using this stuff for seedboxes. I don't see much point in that anyhow.
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julienvf
join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
kudos:1 | At 119 euros per year for 2tb storage, it makes it a nice seedbox... |
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| It also makes a good server/VPN for a tech oriented family. I moved my father over last weekend.
Incidentally, the 119€ plan is not suited to virtualization. I tried using that during install (to get more control over the partitions) and it took hours for the base Debian install. (Debootstrap from the rescue image would have been much faster if I hadn't forgotten to install the lvm package) |
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | said by DSL_Ricer:It also makes a good server/VPN for a tech oriented family. I moved my father over last weekend.
Incidentally, the 119€ plan is not suited to virtualization. I tried using that during install (to get more control over the partitions) and it took hours for the base Debian install. (Debootstrap from the rescue image would have been much faster if I hadn't forgotten to install the lvm package)
vSphere should work, don't know about the other linux hypervisors.. I got the $49 i3 server and it's running perfectly.
Only trick was installing cPanel as a VM and bringing up the failover IPs but I figured it out.
They also have very little documentation on the Canadian site but googling around I find the right info more or less on the international sites. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to Guspaz
The i3-2130 that you have is a 3.4 GHz dual core chip that supports VT-x, it's designed for virtualization.
The 119 euro plan that DSL_Ricer got his dad, that's a 1.8 GHz Atom D425. Single core, no VT-x support (or any other virtualization extensions), and the Atom is pretty damned slow clock-for-clock. It's great for light web serving and VPN use, but it's really not a good chip for virtualization.
EDIT: Also, vSphere's minimum requirements suggest a single-chip-dual-core or dual-chip-single-core server, which the Atom isn't.
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | Ah euro plan. Yeah the Atom chip isn't great for servers. He should move to a Canadian server (presuming he's in Canada). I mean good price for a year but not great specs. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | The 119 euro offer is for a server located in (or rather, just outside of) Montreal...
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jmckformerly 'shaded'
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON | still no resolution on the OVH to TSI path, so f*ing useless after 5pm until 2am. |
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| I am ordering now, and I am with TSI (Quebec Cable), I will confirm that it works well, if not they will ahve 2 tickets open. |
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