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.. Is anyone going to be in Montreal tomorrow to see this go down?
Will anyone tweet what's going on?
D_Puckett, can you get anyone there to transcribe this as it goes down?
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Unfortunately the process is rather anti-climactic. NGN and Riding's counsel notified our counsel that they wish an indeterminate adjournment while they wait to see what happens in the CIPPIC Intervenor motion in the Voltage TS motion. We are not in a position to oppose an adjournment as it is their motion.

For the armchair lawyers out there.. we could try and oppose but we would have a tough time trying to show how our customer's privacy would be harmed by NGN retreating from the table.

So, while if it were proceeding tomorrow AM I was planning on being there, it won't so I won't.

Unfortunately the process is rather anti-climactic. NGN and Riding's counsel notified our counsel that they wish an indeterminate adjournment while they wait to see what happens in the CIPPIC Intervenor motion in the Voltage TS motion. We are not in a position to oppose an adjournment as it is their motion.

For the armchair lawyers out there.. we could try and oppose but we would have a tough time trying to show how our customer's privacy would be harmed by NGN retreating from the table.

So, while if it were proceeding tomorrow AM I was planning on being there, it won't so I won't.

Howard Knopf (copyright lawyer) wrote up on the position you are taking. I dropped this URL to him about NGN putting this on hold in his comment area. Refer to the comments in his Distributel blog post:
»excesscopyright.blogspot.ca/2013···isp.html

I'm not 100% sure I follow, but I think he stated you should press ahead. Anyhow he (we) have no way of knowing if you really are who you claim to be. So I'll let you contact him, or not, to set the record straight since the docket isn't updated with this latest info.

Lot's of people support your position.

I may need to discuss with our counsel first, as lawyers get cranky if/when their clients get too involved in legal discussions without their blessings

Personally, I have no interest in hearing anything Mr. Knopf says, as it looks self-serving, and a "I know better" attitude.

I find it funny that in his prior blogs he says the best information came not from the blog-o-sphere, but from a National Post article.

Personally, I have no interest in hearing anything Mr. Knopf says, as it looks self-serving, and a "I know better" attitude. Everyone has differences in opinion, but he doesn't have to write his blogs so it clearly shows he thinks his opinion is worth more than other IP lawyers'.

Distributel's submission was a work of art, and frankly is awesome.

Yup, in a case like this he will take the word of a lawyer with a name over the tweets of a ... well here we go again, for lack of a better word, someone with no name, credibility, and who is what exactly?

Honestly this is all to scary. All these guys have essentially provided is a list of IPs with a date and time stamp. I just feel there needs to be a WAY higher threshold of proof before even considering something like this in court.

This is a great read. In theory couldn't Teksavvy just use the exact same arguments? The time difference, Location issues, IP != a Person, No proof the entire file was downloaded or if the IP even had the file at all.

These are solid arguments IMO.

So a question for fellow DSLr's out there. If for some reason the judges allows this to go through in either case, what is stoping say myself from making a spreadsheet of random IP's from a TPIA and going to them and demanding names and personal information. This IP downloaded one of my songs or movies etc?? I don't see the difference.

Honestly this is all to scary. All these guys have essentially provided is a list of IPs with a date and time stamp. I just feel there needs to be a WAY higher threshold of proof before even considering something like this in court.