 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Re: Walmart Strike and Thanksgiving Opening! I never got why these whiners are complaining. Perhaps they should be thankful they have jobs, which for quite a few of them, seem to cover the costs of those green shirts, protest signs, computers and Internet access.
Lots of people work on Turkey Day:
Soldiers
Cops
Firefighters
Paramedics
Doctors
Nurses
Hospital staff
Train Engineers
Bus Drivers
Delivery people
Restaurant workers
Grocery store workers
So if these people don't want to be bothered to work on Turkey Day, they can quit and make room for people who want to do so.
And besides, stores like Walmart, Target and Sears would not be open on Turkey Day if not for people wanting to shop on Turkey Day. Perhaps these strikers should be picketing the shoppers' homes instead.
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 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium
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Warwick, NY
kudos:3 | said by pnh102:I never got why these whiners are complaining. Perhaps they should be thankful they have jobs, which for quite a few of them, seem to cover the costs of those green shirts, protest signs, computers and Internet access.
Lots of people work on Turkey Day:
Soldiers
Cops
Firefighters
Paramedics
Doctors
Nurses
Hospital staff
Train Engineers
Bus Drivers
Delivery people
Restaurant workers
Grocery store workers
So if these people don't want to be bothered to work on Turkey Day, they can quit and make room for people who want to do so.
And besides, stores like Walmart, Target and Sears would not be open on Turkey Day if not for people wanting to shop on Turkey Day. Perhaps these strikers should be picketing the shoppers' homes instead.
There's no pressing need for retail stores to be open. What happened the to the days when EVERYTHING was closed on major holidays? Guess what, people survived. There's no reason for this except the almighty buck. And people who shop on holidays like this are stupid to encourage it.
Maybe Walmart employees would like the day off to be with their families, ever think of that? Walmart (and other retailers) aren't going to go broke by any means.
And bus/train services are cut WAY back on major holidays, so they don't really belong on your list. Grocery store workers fall into the same catagory as Walmart workers, no need for those stores to be open. If you can't get your shit together by the day before (like we always used to), too bad.
Happy Thanksgiving. Hope you enjoy YOUR day home with YOUR family.
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said by pnh102:Soldiers
Cops
Firefighters
Paramedics
Doctors
Nurses
Hospital staff
Train Engineers
Bus Drivers
Delivery people
Restaurant workers
Grocery store workers
I wouldn't call Soldiers "Workers"
Cops,Firefighters,Paramedics, and Doctors are emergency workers and usually get compensated in other days.
So do most Hospital Staff.
Train Engineers also get compensated in other ways.
Delivery People -->USPS is closed ,so is UPS, not sure about FedEx as they have no union.
Restaurant Workers- Recent Development, everything used to be closed on Thanksgiving due to Blue Laws.
Grocery--> Same as above.
Also the people probably taking the shifts during thanksgiving are the ones barley making ends meet on 9/hr. |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to La Luna
said by La Luna:There's no pressing need for retail stores to be open. What happened the to the days when EVERYTHING was closed on major holidays? Guess what, people survived. There's no reason for this except the almighty buck. And people who shop on holidays like this are stupid to encourage it. You could make the same argument about the people who work the Westminster Dog Show, football players, the people who work the various parades that happen on this day too, as well as all the other people who work today to furnish everyone else with all this entertainment. But yet, they still show up to fulfill the employment obligations that they chose to take on.
said by La Luna:Maybe Walmart employees would like the day off to be with their families, ever think of that? Walmart (and other retailers) aren't going to go broke by any means. We all have to live in a world where we don't get things that we want. Sure, it sucks, but in a day and age where jobs are getting more and more scarce, perhaps this isn't the best way to show that disagreement.
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to Kommie
said by Kommie:Cops,Firefighters,Paramedics, and Doctors are emergency workers and usually get compensated in other days.
So do most Hospital Staff.
Train Engineers also get compensated in other ways. So do Walmart workers and others who work on holidays. No one is expecting them to work 24/7/365. Ironically, many retail employers are slashing hours for people so these people will get more free time off than they wished.
said by Kommie:Delivery People -->USPS is closed ,so is UPS, not sure about FedEx as they have no union. I know a few truck drivers who are making deliveries today. They fall into this category.
said by Kommie:Restaurant Workers- Recent Development, everything used to be closed on Thanksgiving due to Blue Laws.
Grocery--> Same as above. Blue Laws were rooted in Christianity. Wouldn't you have a problem if government decided to reapply this reasoning to bring these laws back?
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KommiePremium
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kudos:2 | Walmart workers get straight pay for working today, and some are forced on the shift by taking a normal day away and putting them in on the thanksgiving shift.
Those emergency service workers you mentioned proboly all have unions. Train Engineers like those on Amtrak are Federal Workers and have the day made up as a comp day for vacation.
Those truck drivers, who do they work for ? Subcontracted?
When we had the Blue Laws, everything was closed on Saturday and Sunday(Plus Holidays), I think it was a lot healthier for the populace |
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Kommie:Walmart workers get straight pay for working today, and some are forced on the shift by taking a normal day away and putting them in on the thanksgiving shift. So? Jobs are a bit scarce these days. Would these people prefer to be unemployed? When you work part time, of course you will make only regular pay unless you hit 40 hours a week. This has been basic US labor law for at least what, 70 years now?
We'd all love to make a six figure salary but at the end of the day we are paid what our employers think we are worth.
said by Kommie:Those emergency service workers you mentioned proboly all have unions. Train Engineers like those on Amtrak are Federal Workers and have the day made up as a comp day for vacation.
Lol unions... Given what they have done to companies like GM, Chrysler, and Hostess, as well as industries like US manufacturing, textile, steel and many others, perhaps Walmart management thinks it might be a good idea to avoid them.
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So? Jobs are a bit scarce these days. Would these people prefer to be unemployed?
Sorry but being subjected to abuse as opposed to being fired is not a valid choice. People deserve to have a livable work environment. |
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said by pnh102:And besides, stores like Walmart, Target and Sears would not be open on Turkey Day if not for people wanting to shop on Turkey Day. Perhaps these strikers should be picketing the shoppers' homes instead.
In case you missed it, that is exactly what Kommie was doing... picketing the shoppers via a virtual picket line. Count me in  |
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Network Administrators.... I've spent most of my "Day off" dealing with a customer who is an absolute jerk today. He can't believe that we're not running a 100% full staff on a Holiday...
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said by CXM_Splicer: quote:
So? Jobs are a bit scarce these days. Would these people prefer to be unemployed?
Sorry but being subjected to abuse as opposed to being fired is not a valid choice. People deserve to have a livable work environment. Absolutely. America needs a stronger labor law, something most of Canada has. Walmart didn't last very long in Quebec. |
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For years the Unions have been harassing Walmart preventing them form building new stores,like my neighborhood. This has nothing to do with welfare of workers just trying to get more warm bodies too line the union 's pockets. Yes they Walmart workers could walk off and join the former Hostess Workers in the Unemployment line.
Let there unions pansies work as a contractor as I do, A day off like today means I do not get paid. |
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| said by Scatcatpdx:For years the Unions have been harassing Walmart preventing them form building new stores
Nobody harasses Walmart, that is an absolute absurdity.
I take it you prefer taxes to pay Walmart workers wages instead of Walmart paying a livable wage.
There is nothing wrong with workers organizing, it is an essentially part to any free market.
And I gladly pay my union dues, as its the better of two evils. Much better. |
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Pulling out of this discussion. |
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Oh yea where when you in Portland Oregon when union assisted in organized a not in my Back Yard campaign to block Beaverton, Cedar Mills and Baseline Road proposed locations. Where were you during the Fred Myer strike when I had to walk past Union pickets at Non union and employee owned Winco stores. Don't tell me what I did not see with my own eyes.
?? "take it you prefer taxes to pay Walmart workers wages instead of Walmart paying a livable wage."
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pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to DataRiker
Re: Walmart Strike and Thanksgiving Opening! said by DataRiker:Absolutely. America needs a stronger labor law ...
China agrees with you too.
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Re: Walmart Strike and Thanksgiving Opening! Pulling out of this discussion. Enough said. |
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